Recording: Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - Boss Theme

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This one was a little repetitive. XD But it was still fun so tell me what you think.

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Keep it up Strife, your

Keep it up Strife, your getting better with each recording!

I agree with HSL, although as

I agree with HSL, although as you say it's a little repetitive. It might be a bit much to hear the same thing repeating for two minutes! You could try arranging it a bit, or just adding little variations or such.

You do a cool thing at 1:14. Do more cool things! :-)

You might also consider looking into some amp sim software. How are you recording right now?

Thanks hslesperance and

Thanks hslesperance and auriplane! And auri, right now all I am using is Audacity until I buy a microphone. That's why the quality is pretty bad. :)

Are you going to mic your

Are you going to mic your amp? That's kind of tricky, but it's supposed to be the best way to get a good sound (assuming you have a good space to record and a good amp, and can turn it up a lot! ;-)

There's some free amp sim software out there:

Head: http://sites.google.com/site/nickcrowlab/7170-Lead
Cab: http://www.voxengo.com/product/boogex/

Those are VST plugins, so you need some program that supports VSTs. Reaper is a free one: http://www.reaper.fm/

Link Strife07 said Thanks

Link Strife07 said

Thanks hslesperance and auriplane! And auri, right now all I am using is Audacity until I buy a microphone. That's why the quality is pretty bad. :)

Audacity is perfectly capable of getting a good quality. The reason it's freeware is because of it's limited capabilities. How do you record your guitar?

jit said Link Strife07

jit said

Link Strife07 said

Thanks hslesperance and auriplane! And auri, right now all I am using is Audacity until I buy a microphone. That's why the quality is pretty bad. :)

Audacity is perfectly capable of getting a good quality. The reason it's freeware is because of it's limited capabilities. How do you record your guitar?

Put my laptop on the ground, next to my amp, and press record on Audacity. I need to get a mic pretty soon though.

micing is a difficult

micing is a difficult technique man. You need to understand the type of mic to get, mic placement, room acoustics, etc. to get a decent sound and signal plus the fact that it's a tedious/expensive task anyway. A cheap alternative is to get a 1/4" into to 1/8" converter(~$4) for your guitar cord. If you have 2 guitar cords, you can hook your guitar into your amp or an FX pedal, then use the 2nd cord as an output into your computer. Cheap can go a long way!

Ya, I have heard it is

Ya, I have heard it is difficult to get the placement right, echo's, to loud, to soft, ect. But I am wondering where I should go to get a good quality mic. Are you just going to find them at target?

I'm telling ya, you should

I'm telling ya, you should just get the converter and save the trouble and money if you have never tried doing some type of live recording before or never researched it at least.

Here's your predicament if you're buying a mic.

A) What is my budget????

B) What type of mic?
Acoustic - Most likely Condenser (which also needs phantom power)
Electric with amp - Most likely Dynamic

C) Room Acoustics and Mic Placement
Is your room properly treated? Most likely not since it's a bedroom and not a studio. That also makes mic placement an issue

D) How am I connecting this mic into my computer?
Guitar cable - You need the 1/8" converter to plug into mic jack
XLR - you will most likely need an audio interface (more $$$)
USB - I would shy away with microphones with USB. I wouldn't even buy that Lightsnake contraption. But that's just me.

Guess you're right. Where is

Guess you're right. Where is a good place to buy a converter?

I have a few recordings on

I have a few recordings on here which I used the Lightsnake for. I have a really junky guitar, and it's the reason for any bad sounds and background noise in my videos - not the Lightsnake. So if you want to hear it, check out some of my stuff. I just posted a Breath of Fire cover. Like I said if I had a better guitar it would sound VERY nice.

Well, the way I see it,

Well, the way I see it, there's a bunch of things that affect guitar tone. I don't have the best guitar tone, so you can ignore all of this, but I'm going to type it anyway :-)

On the guitar itself:

1. Intonation (most important, always set intonation any time you change string types, preferably every time you change strings)
2. Strings (I'm using Ernie Ball 9s, how about you guys?)
3. Pickups (including the height of the pickup and which pickup(s) you're using. I have my pickups set high near the strings for a "hot" sound, and I tend to use my bridge pickup because my neck pickup sounds terrible)
4. Knobs - I always keep my knobs dimed
5. Lesser factors like wood and such

Then there's any pedals between the guitar and the amp. For me, that's the same few pedals every time, but I imagine most people don't use what I do:

6. Noise gate - helps when you use really high gain
7. Compression - you can compress after (and I do), but some light compression on the way in seems to be nice :-)
8. Preamp - doing EQ before you distort the sound changes it a lot!!

Then there's the amp:

9. The head, which shapes the sound and distorts it (or not). (You might be able to use a distortion pedal instead of this, or along WITH this, although note that starved plate distortion pedals don't produce the same kind of sound as an overdriven tube--unfortunate for me perhaps, since I have one!)
10. The cab, which is the physical speaker.

And if you're recording the cab:

11. Type of mic
12. Mic placement (matters regardless of whether room is treated--mic angle changes sound in a big way)
13. The room

Anyway, both 9 and 10 (head and cab) are a big part of the sound of a guitar. If you use your guitar direct in, without an amp, you'll be missing both; if you plug the amp directly into the interface, you'll be missing 10. You can only get the "amp" sound if you mic it.

14. Effects and mixing, depending on what you want the guitar to do. Compression, delays, convolution reverb, any chorus/flanger/etc., and EQ. What effects/EQ/reverb you want to add depend on what sound you want. And as I mentioned, my sound is kind of cruddy, so I won't pretend to tell you how to do this step.

So, here's the deal. The guitar is only a small part of that equation. You've got to make sure any steps you *want* to have in your sound, you either have *physically*, or you *simulate*. (And now I'll stop typing with *stars*.) That is, if you're recording line in from the amp, it'll sound like crap unless you use a cab sim (convolution reverb + amp impulse, re-amp and mic, or software cab sim). If you're recording line in from the guitar, you're going to need to simulate both a head and a cab.

So the easiest two solutions seem to be:

A. Get a multi-effects pedal, like a Line6 or Digitech pedal, which simulates amps and does various effects. This is what I recommended to Juja a while ago, and I think his Digitech pedal has served him pretty well :-D This seems like the cheapest all-in-one solution. I don't have one sadly :-( (My Bass PodXT won't turn on anymore.)

B. Get some of those programs like Guitar Rig or whatnot. I can't speak to these, because I'm not willing to shell out the money for them right now.

And finally, since I suck, here's some advice that was given to me by a better musician: record something, and then compare it to something you want to sound like. Does it sound different? What's different? Try to figure out how to sound like something good! Pick some reference recordings. This will help you in your quest for tone and mixing :-)

My guitar is kind of shitty too, but I think it's fine for my purposes. Hehehe.

nice tut auri. i really kept

nice tut auri. i really kept it simple because i didn't want to confuse him with all the pre/post production stuff. I think his goal right now is to attain the best guitar signal in a reasonable price.

P.S. I record my guitar clean/dry always first. Then apply FX/subtle compression/low-pass filter/ EQ/ etc. afterwards. Of course, if I just want to jam out that's a different story.

Very good info Auri. The only

Very good info Auri. The only issue with my guitar is I get that background hum when I'm not playing, and I watched something on YouTube about that, some guy explained how some guitars have better conductivity than others, and you can put copper foil tape in the pickup area to help it. Also I've had this guitar only 8 months and some frets are already worn down, and I have a problem with some notes on the 1st string, no matter what I do they sound buzzy sometimes. It IS a cheap guitar so I think when I get a new one things will sound better, but overall I am pretty good on what sound I am using, then again I don't claim to be an expert on guitar playing :P

Beautiful speech! 1. You

Beautiful speech!

1. You play guitar and bass great so don't be downing your skills! :)

2. Your tips where great!

3. I guess the best solution would be to get Line6

4. I felt like I had to do numbers because you did. XD

Thanks so much auri! I will start looking for Line6. :)

Actually, the reason Audacity

Actually, the reason Audacity is free is because they wanted to give it away :-)

auriplane said Actually, the

auriplane said

Actually, the reason Audacity is free is because they wanted to give it away :-)

Really? Huh, :)

Hey, apparently you can use

Hey, apparently you can use VSTs with Audacity:

http://audacityteam.org/vst/

Pretty nifty.

Ya, I was thinking of that,

Ya, I was thinking of that, just to lazy to ever actually do it. XD Thanks, though. Now I'll just download reaper and the amp sim software (and get the mic) and get started!

Ah! Good luck!! I haven't

Ah! Good luck!! I haven't actually used any of those, so I don't really know what I'm talking about with them. But I hear good things from better musicians than I! :-)

I use the lightsnake cable,

I use the lightsnake cable, got it for about $40 at Guitar Center, it's great. I use Audacity too, it's decent but it can be slow at times, and I can't hear myself while I play due to latency, but I guess if you get M Audio Fast Track or something similar it solves that problem. I haven't had a chance to pick that up yet.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/SoundTech-LightSnake-Guit...

Hey cool thanks! That's weird

Hey cool thanks! That's weird cause I was just looking at that cable a few days ago! XD Anyways I'll go out and look sooner or later.

That's exactly my problem

That's exactly my problem with that cable. It does exactly what a $4 converter you can buy a Radioshack can do. Why pay $40? So it apparently comes with its own sound card but according to you, it still has the latency issues. Unless your mic jack is broken, there is no reason to pay the extra money for the same quality recording.

It does have it's own sound

It does have it's own sound card. I'm not sure if the latency problem is my computer or the program I'm using, not necessarily the cable. It's good quality though, I like it. I have other cables but I don't use them. Whatever, it's your choice.