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Composing, and how we listen to the music we love

SpeedStar

SpeedStar

Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Joined: Feb 06 2010

Just a few questions to find out different peoples outlook.

1.) When you listen to a song you are enjoying (without vocals) what do you see
in your mind? Each song plays a unique story in my head, I sometimes feel so attached to the story that I rename the song. I sometimes also hear imaginery lyrics coming from the insruments.

2.) When/if you compose were do you usually get your inspiration from? I usually get mine from nature, alot of musicians write about a certain person, but I could never feel strongly enough about someone to do that. Or I play an abstract story in my head then try and match it.

3.) Are you never satisfied with your compositions? I usually start well then change it like 100X before deciding its rubish then giving up. haha

Thoughts?
I'd like to find out how different people approach this.
Cheerio

1) I don't usually 'see'

BooDoo

People

Location: Somerville, MA

Joined: Mar 24 2008

1) I don't usually 'see' anything. Some pieces do evoke imagery, but most often my brain is tickled by the melody/harmonies, or I feel the music as a physical thing moving through me.

2) I don't compose. When I improvise, much as above, it is generally a physical thing and not tied to a particular image or object. The physical aspect is dependent on emotional or mental states, but I don't feel I can represent an idea or concept in music; only feeling.

3) I'm never satisfied with anything, period. :)

1. It can very much vary for

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

1. It can very much vary for me. Sometimes I envision stories and events, other times I see simple imagry, and even other times I think of ideas and philosophies.

2. My compositions stem from myself and my own psyche. It can be depending on my mood at the time or otherwise.

3. Sure, it's bound to happen.

1. I never see so much a

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

1. I never see so much a story, rather self-glorifying fabrications sparked by the surge of positivity in my brain. Or, if I have something of equal reward ongoing, the music would merely bolster my outlook on it.

2. My inspiration comes mostly from my ideals and hopes for life. It's often sparked by people conforming to my standards of intellegence, positvity, productivity and objectivity etc. Though, ocassionally, I may be equally inspired from the sense of freedom bestowed from a cloudless sky :D

3. It's unwise to be on either ends of the spectrum. I often use dissatisfaction to fuel my production rate, and allow myself moderate satisfaction when I have either grown sick of the piece (more likely), or have completed it to the best of my ability.

I think its clear that the

SpeedStar

SpeedStar

Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Joined: Feb 06 2010

I think its clear that the ability to really listen to music, is in itself a talent/skill.

That brings me to something else:

MUSICAL TASTE

In my early/mid teenage years my music taste was mainly
14-15yrs pop/rave (generally whatever was in)
16-21yrs punk rock, mainstream rock (Offspring, Sum41, Blink182 actually pop-punk) (Linkin Park)
First picked up a Guitar (Inspired by BECK) 22-23yrs metal,eurobeat, (Especially GGX OST & X-Japan)

Now 24yr Progressive Rock, Fusion Jazz, Classical, World, Mainly Instrumental Music
Interesting that when I try and listen to my earliar tastes, I cant listen to them, I often ask myself
"What the bloody hell were you thinking?"

Point I'm trying to figure out - My musical taste became alot my specialised (and maybe "intelligent") after I
first picked up a guitar and I find that I enjoy music a whole lot more: not
because I'm listening for the theory in a piece, but because it seems musicians
are able to not just hear but "feel" a piece of music. If I was a betting man I
would say non-musicians will never gain this skill and are therfore missing out
on something amazing.

Sorry for going overboard. Any Comments? Yay or Nay?

hmmmm, i still love

SalemJeanette

Save Your Tears.

Location: Popular Land.

Joined: Jul 03 2009

hmmmm, i still love commercial pop despite playing musical instruments

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23:33 Vic9mm said: its ture ida benn gone she took out like 3 kids before had what was that fat ass asian kid gonna do

Little J.

My musical taste was

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

My musical taste was nonexistant until maybe around 13-14 which I then started listening to classic rock, specifically stuff like beatles to hendrix.

That eventually inspired me to learn guitar which initially was involved in learning a lot of those riffs and stuff.

classic rock was mainstream listening for me until my middle high school years when I got into modern metal, some hardcore, progressive, experimental, etc etc.

My musical tastes have exploded, I listen to classic reggae, american reggae (sublimism), progressive, fusion, experimental, hip hop (good hip hop), etc etc etc

Re: My musical taste was

SalemJeanette

Save Your Tears.

Location: Popular Land.

Joined: Jul 03 2009

surreal said

My musical taste was nonexistant until maybe around 13-14 which I then started listening to classic rock, specifically stuff like beatles to hendrix.

That eventually inspired me to learn guitar which initially was involved in learning a lot of those riffs and stuff.

classic rock was mainstream listening for me until my middle high school years when I got into modern metal, some hardcore, progressive, experimental, etc etc.

My musical tastes have exploded, I listen to classic reggae, american reggae (sublimism), progressive, fusion, experimental, hip hop (good hip hop), etc etc etc

teh animu!

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23:33 Vic9mm said: its ture ida benn gone she took out like 3 kids before had what was that fat ass asian kid gonna do

Little J.

I grew up on video game music

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I grew up on video game music before I was exposed to radio and such ^-^

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Auriplane!!

Re: I grew up on video game music

RexLeRouge

IMPACTO

Joined: Aug 15 2008

auriplane said

I grew up on video game music before I was exposed to radio and such ^-^

Same here, I always liked video games music
then I started listening to other stuff

I didn't start caring much

Vic9mm

The Fingerstyle Mechanic

Location: Dallas Texas

Joined: Aug 27 2008

I didn't start caring much for music until about late 80's which I liked one band "The Nelsons" after that the video game Sonic(1991) came out and thats where my love of vg music started. I went on to the the R&B phase, then came the rap then gangsta rap for a short period, then my taste focused on dance music which I'll still listen to this day, then in 95-96 came my love for rock that started with the Metallica "Load" CD from there to about 2005 I added listening to Alternative/Progressive Rock. As of now I don't listen to to hip-hop/rap/gangsta rap. I enjoy vg music, and listening to 90's+ Rock/Alternative/Melodic hardcore, punk rock all mainstream stuff pretty much, I also like listening to alot of classical fingerstyle pieces on youtube as well.

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Re: I didn't start caring much

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

Vic9mm said

I didn't start caring much for music until about late 80's which I liked one band "The Nelsons" after that the video game Sonic(1991) came out and thats where my love of vg music started. I went on to the the R&B phase, then came the rap then gangsta rap for a short period, then my taste focused on dance music which I'll still listen to this day, then in 95-96 came my love for rock that started with the Metallica "Load" CD from there to about 2005 I added listening to Alternative/Progressive Rock. As of now I don't listen to to hip-hop/rap/gangsta rap. I enjoy vg music, and listening to 90's+ Rock/Alternative/Melodic hardcore, punk rock all mainstream stuff pretty much, I also like listening to alot of classical fingerstyle pieces on youtube as well.

You forgot TOOL

o:

Re: I didn't start caring much

Vic9mm

The Fingerstyle Mechanic

Location: Dallas Texas

Joined: Aug 27 2008

surreal said

You forgot TOOL

o:

I didnt inquire about my fav bands, but I got into Tool around 1996 and Deftones around 2000.

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Well, I actually liked VG

SpeedStar

SpeedStar

Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Joined: Feb 06 2010

Well, I actually liked VG music since I was a kid, but before I started playing guitar I had no idea it was
an actual genre and that you could download the tracks. I thought I was some sorta weirdo hehe.

My first VG track that I liked alot was
Shampoo's theme - Ranma 1/2 game on SNES

Was only recently I discovered there was a following for VG music, I was like "You're kidding, the world of music
isn't such a bad place after all."

I can't remember before

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I can't remember before playing music . . .

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Auriplane!!

1. I too see a variety of

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

1. I too see a variety of stories, though there's a degree of intentionalism in it, sometimes it just hits me. Sometimes, as in the case of Copland's Quiet City, it's just one long extended image. Never really wrote a story for that one...but I have Dvorak's 9th all mapped out, Koyunbaba...heh heh...

Okay someone else tell me that when they hear the opening to the 3rd movement of Aranjuez, they can hear a British narrator saying "And now we come to the end of our little tale..."

2. Primitive. I mess around on guitar until I find something I like, and I usually just end up patching pieces together. It doesn't always turn out very cohesive.

3. Some SONGS I've written I'm very pleased with. To date I have never written a full on instrumental piece. Usually I come up with a great starting idea but don't know where to go with it.

But my custom parody birthday songs rock. :D

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

1.)For me its more about

StrangeJam

Da Manliness

Joined: Aug 23 2009

1.)For me it is more about evoking feelings, rather than images.

2.) Pictures, stories, other musicians.

3.) Used to be. I am a lot more self-critical lately.

1. Sometimes I see images,

po_po

Joined: Sep 11 2008

1. Sometimes I see images, but usually I just feel the emotion from the song
2. I usually get inspiration from emotions or pictures. But I mostly do improv and then I forget what I played :(
3. I think the original composition is better than the re-edited composition ;) so I'm usually satisfied after my first run through it (with some minor tweaks)

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1.) Yeah I will make up

Kabukibear

Happy Strumming!

Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

Joined: Mar 22 2007

1.) Yeah I will make up stories to music. Sometimes it will be a long involved story and other times it's just one scene that plays out to the musical cues. Other times I like to imagine myself performing the music. I guess that's a bit of mental "air guitar," or something.

2.) I don't really draw inspiration from any particular thing. Usually it's through experimentation. I might be trying out stuff and find a few chords I like and build from there, but for the most part I don't have an image in mind that I try to capture with music besides a general feel if it's going to be upbeat, slow, and what sort of style it's going to be in. It's more of a slow process of building and bringing together different ideas. I'll form a chordal foundation and from that begin to add in the details and shape whatever idea I'm trying to get across. Most of the time, when I start a new composition, I have no idea where it's going to end up. :P

3.) Never ever ever. For every arrangement or composition I finish there are at least 3-4 that were started but nothing came of it. I have a hard time coming back to something I'm working on and picking up where I left off. I try to get whatever it is I'm working on finished in one sitting, otherwise, I feel the piece suffers for it. This isn't always the case as some pieces have gotten better when I had a chance to take a break and come back to them, but for the majority of the stuff I started and never finished, it was because I was interrupted and had to stop working on it for whatever reason. There is always stuff I feel like I could do to improve something, but sometimes I just say "good enough," if I feel like the effort isn't really worth the outcome or if I start to lose interest in what I'm working on. I have no problem spending 5-6 hours working on a piece only to get fed up with it and delete it. Sometimes things just click, and other times it's like chopping down a tree with a herring.

Re: Composing, and how we listen to the music we love

spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Joined: Apr 23 2009

1) Sometimes I see stories played out, sometimes it's just an interpretation of a story. I can clearly remember having read the novel Bec, by Darren Shaw, and shortly thereafter listening to Closure, by Chevelle. In my mind under the song was the whole story playing as I heard the song, and to this day I still see it :o

2) I just play and if it sounds good than good, if not then I mess with it until it does.

3) Absolutely never, even things that people like to listen to, I tear apart. Things are never in time the way like them, or maybe I don't like the tone just right and I need to do the whole thing over. It always kills me...

1) I see stories, events, or

AquaKnight

Joined: May 26 2010

1) I see stories, events, or maybe images in my head when I write songs.
2) I get inspiration from all sorts of sources, including other songs, television, games, and art.
3) I'm never satisfied with my work and always feel that I could do a better job. I'm always looking to improve parts of a song or my approach in terms of additional effects, etc.

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Re: 1. It can very much vary for

SilentFury

Joined: Jun 10 2010

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can you hear the game music influence?