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is this a dumb question?

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Hi I'm new to all this, but I've played guitar and games all my life so I'm well up for trying to play the music!
Anyway... one thing that suprised me straight off the bat...
Music from snes and the 8bit - 16bit era yeah, has been avaible in 'translated to PC psuedo midi format' for years. Loads of freeware music players have been using this format in an 'intutive sheet music for computers format' kind of way for years.
So it begs the question, where are the 'print outs' for this sheet music? Just feed in the data rip and the computer will print out the tab. Why are we waiting for some guy to figure out the tabs by listening then 'reverse engineering by ear' the music?

Or am I missing something? :|

Re: is this a dumb question?

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Well your right in that MIDIs are kind of like sheet music for computers. There are programs like Finale that will open a MIDI file and turn it into sheet music. But a lot of times people like to tab things out by ear, to leave their own mark on the tab and add their own style to it.

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Re: is this a dumb question?

ronito

Decisive Battler

Location: Northern Cali, USA

Joined: May 21 2007

and don't forget that just having the music doesn't necessarily make it playable on the guitar. Combining harmonies and such into one instrument is what some of us do. I agree that the single note themes are indeed just doable by midi, but look at something like the Wizardy themes or LoM's Treasured Love where there are multiple voices put into one instrument. that's what some of us do.

Re: is this a dumb question?

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Hmm. Well I've played songs by ear myself many times, it's fun but most of time I just want to get adept at playing the thing at a basic standard over with. For me the fun starts once you acomplished the tune, and are henceforth free to tart around with it.
I'd like there to be a large downloadable file containing 10000+ 'computer print out' tabs from all the coolest game musics.

I'm just going to search for some program that generates tabs from old game music rips. That 'finale' only does real midi to tabs? no good for our purpose then.

Re: is this a dumb question?

Kabukibear

Happy Strumming!

Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

Joined: Mar 22 2007

There aren't any programs like that. The players can emulate the old systems audio abilities and translates that into something your computer can play. Midi is just stored information that your computers sound card interprets as sound but is in depth enough that you can assign different instruments to different channels, etc. So programs like Finale can take the midi information and write out what it would be playing if it were a real instrument. IF it is a guitar midi being played Finale CAN tab it out, though there are usually strange fingerings that have to be changed, etc. If it's a full piece, then all the channels are written out and the arranger has to wade through the notes and assemble the piece as they see fit.

What you are basically asking is for a computer to listen to a piece of music, decide what track is the melody/arrange the tracks to fit a solo guitar, and write out the guitar tabs for it. There just isn't one, there are too many variables. I know it sucks having to wait for people to tab out stuff but as of right now that's about your only option if you want a decent sounding piece. If you want a melodic line I suggest finding a midi, run it through a midi editor, delete everything except the melody you want, save it as another midi, and then run that through something like GuitarPro or use Finales automatic tabber. It may or may not work and is bound to make some boring tabs, but it's possible. Otherwise, you've gotta wait for us to tab it out. Sorry, thems the breaks kid. ;)

Re: is this a dumb question?

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

I think the actual game music rips are files called like .spc or something like that right? Those are basically MIDI files that only certain machines can read. MIDI is pretty universal. Like Kabuki said, you can run it through Guitar Pro if you're just looking for a quick and dirty transcription.

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Re: is this a dumb question?

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Depending on the Midi File, and depending on the program.... usually half the time the midi files don't convert back to written format properly (talking about note values), unless you use the same program that you made the Midi in.