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Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

Daugreano

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Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

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Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

i love this song so i tryed your tab, it's a great job but i have changed some parts :

B-3s5--5-3-5---3s5-
G----------------2-------

and

B-8-7-8-5-7-5h7h5s3-5-----3h5-
G------------------------------4-2------

Tell me if you think that sounds closer or not ^^

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Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

Daugreano

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Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

Sounds pretty good, but the last four or five notes feel kind of awkward...

Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

B-8-7-8-5-7--5h7h5-3h5------3s5-
G-------------------------------4-2------

Is it better like this ?

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Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

Daugreano

-----Forgotten Guitarist-----

Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

Switch the b that is on the g string to an open b string... that feels a little better, for me anyway. What do you think? I do value your opinion.

Actually...

Daugreano

-----Forgotten Guitarist-----

Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

You can switch it around however you like...whatever suits your style.

Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Switch the b that is on the g string to an open b string... that feels a little better, for me anyway. What do you think? I do value your opinion.

i don't really understand that :X

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Re: Xenogears - Bonds Of Sea And Flame

Daugreano

-----Forgotten Guitarist-----

Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

What don't you understand? Anyway, if you look at my other comment, it doesn't matter to me how you change any notes, do as you like. So, you can discount anything i may have written. All i meant was that playing that b on the g string just felt weird, for me, anyway...I really just didn't want to edit that specific tab anymore...

is just that my english is

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

is just that my english is not perfect so i didn't understand this part that's all ^^'

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Re: is just that my english is

Daugreano

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Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

Quite alright, my friend.

Do you want me to post it the

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Do you want me to post it the way you had it in the original post? I'm not really clear on whether you wanted to incorporate any of the suggestions made in this thread.

I have a couple suggestions of my own, but I don't know if you want them or not. I'll type them anyway:

First off, in measure 1, you stay in one hand position, moving up to the first string for the high A. That's good. On the second measure, though, you do the same thing but put the high A on the second string, so you have to change positions. That's okay, you can do that if you want, but in general it's easier to play fluently if your hand is stable (doesn't shift unnecessarily). (You can break this rule if you want to slide, or if you want the specific tone of a certain string at a certain position, etc. Up to you.)

A hand position covers 4 frets minimum, but the index finger can reach up a fret to cover five. So in fourth position, you can have frets 3, 5, 7 all without moving your hand (index, middle, pinky). And in this position you can play the first sixteen measures:

   E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E  T T S E  E  E  E
E|-----------------5--|-----------------5--|-3------3-----3-----|----------------5--3--|
B|-5------5--3--5-----|-5------5--3--5-----|-----------7-----5--|-7--5-7-5-3--5--------|
G|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
D|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
A|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
E|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|

   E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E  E   E  Q
E|-----------------5--|-----------------5--|-3------3-----3--5--|-5--7---3--5-----|
B|-5------5--3--5-----|-5------5--3--5-----|-----------7--------|-----------------|
G|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
D|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
A|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
E|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|

   E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E  T T S E  E  E  E
E|-----------------5--|-----------------5--|-3------3-----3-----|----------------5--3--|
B|-5------5--3--5-----|-5------5--3--5-----|-----------7-----5--|-7--5-7-5-3--5--------|
G|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
D|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
A|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|
E|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|----------------------|

   E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E      E  E  E  E    E  E   E  Q
E|-----------------5--|-----------------5--|-3------3-----3--5--|-5--7---3--5-----|
B|-5------5--3--5-----|-5------5--3--5-----|-----------7--------|-----------------|
G|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
D|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
A|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|
E|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|-----------------|

(I've squished your tab slightly horizontally to fit in this post, but the original width is fine for the site, don't worry.)

This is just an example--you don't have to play it in that position, but that was most natural for me. In the rest of the song, the highest note is a C, which is an 8 on the first string, and it fits neatly into fifth position (frets 5-8), like this:

   E      Q   E  E    E      E   T T S  E    E      Q   E  E    E  E  E  E  E  E
E|-8------8---7--5--|-7------7---5-7-5-----|-5------5---------|-------------5--7--|
B|------------------|-------------------8--|------------8--7--|-8--5--7--8--------|
G|------------------|----------------------|------------------|-------------------|
D|------------------|----------------------|------------------|-------------------|
A|------------------|----------------------|------------------|-------------------|
E|------------------|----------------------|------------------|-------------------|

   E      Q   E  E    E      E   T T S  E    H            Q    E     Q   E  E
E|-8------8---7--5--|-7------7---5-7-5-----|-5-----|------7--|-8-----8---7--5--|
B|------------------|-------------------8--|-------|---------|-----------------|
G|------------------|----------------------|-------|---------|-----------------|
D|------------------|----------------------|-------|---------|-----------------|
A|------------------|----------------------|-------|---------|-----------------|
E|------------------|----------------------|-------|---------|-----------------|

   E      E  T T S  E    E      Q   E  E    E  E  E  E  E  E    E      Q   E  E
E|-7------7--5-7-5-----|-5------5---------|-------------5--7--|-8------8---7--5--|
B|------------------8--|------------8--7--|-8--5--7--8--------|------------------|
G|---------------------|------------------|-------------------|------------------|
D|---------------------|------------------|-------------------|------------------|
A|---------------------|------------------|-------------------|------------------|
E|---------------------|------------------|-------------------|------------------|

   E      E  T T S  E    H            E  E    H
E|-7------7--5-7-5-----|-5-----|---------5--|-7----|
B|------------------8--|-------|------8-----|------|
G|---------------------|-------|------------|------|
D|---------------------|-------|------------|------|
A|---------------------|-------|------------|------|
E|---------------------|-------|------------|------|

(Again, I've squished it slightly horizontally to fit here.) Now the song contains only one shift, and it's from fourth to fifth position. That's one way you could play it, if you like. All I'm doing here is using Tuxguitar's "shift up" / "shift down" functions to move your notes onto different strings--I haven't changed any notes.

Secondly, I'd like to point out that you're not marking rests. In the sheet music view in Tuxguitar or Guitar Pro, you can see rests, so all the beats add up. But as you've written it here, it doesn't add up. In the sheet music view, we see an eighth, an eighth note rest, then four more eighths. It adds up to 3/4 (three quarter notes), so it tells us the rhythm. In yours, I see only five eighths, which does not add up to 3/4, but to 5/8. That's okay, if you prefer that style, but as your style LOOKS very similar to the Guitar Pro style which does mark rests, it might confuse people. (For example, it confused me, until I figured out what you were doing.)

In Guitar Pro style, your tab would have an extra E over the space in between, to mark the rest, and make it all add up. Like this:

   E   E   E   E   E   E     E   E   E   E   E   E     E   E   E   E   E   E     E   T T S  E   E   E   E
E|---------------------5---|-------------------------|-------------------------|--------------------5---3---|
B|-5-------5---3---5-------|-5-------5---3---5---10--|-8-------8---7---8---5---|-7---5-7-5--3---5-----------|
G|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
D|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
A|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
E|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|

Alternatively, you could mark it as a quarter note (that's what I'd do):

   Q       E   E   E   E     Q       E   E   E   E     Q       E   E   E   E     E   T T S  E   E   E   E
E|---------------------5---|-------------------------|-------------------------|--------------------5---3---|
B|-5-------5---3---5-------|-5-------5---3---5---10--|-8-------8---7---8---5---|-7---5-7-5--3---5-----------|
G|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
D|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
A|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|
E|-------------------------|-------------------------|-------------------------|----------------------------|

Then you can mark those notes staccato in Tuxguitar, if you want them to sound shorter.

Anyway, you don't have to do any of this, but I thought I'd give you my feedback in case you were interested. Let me know if you want me to post the tab as-is, or if you'd like to change anything.

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Auriplane!!

Wow...

Daugreano

-----Forgotten Guitarist-----

Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

You can put it up the way that you changed it, since you put the effort in(I am grateful) it seems a lot easier to play as you have it written out...sorry for those missing rests, i was gonna put an "r" or something but I didn't. I like it marked as quarter notes, the way you have it in your last example. Thank you for taking the time to do this, God knows I'm a lazy bum...

Hehe no worries, I just try

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Hehe no worries, I just try to help :-) I've never been sure of the best way to notate rests, anyway.

Give me a few minutes and I'll post it--I want to finish going over the rest of the submissions first, since the submissions forum has been so neglected lately.

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Auriplane!!

Okay, here you go. I posted

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Okay, here you go. I posted the edited version (as exported by Guitar Pro, not Tuxguitar, hope that's okay)

http://www.gametabs.net/xenogears/bonds-of-sea-and-flame

BTW, I want to make sure you know I was just giving an example, to illustrate hand positions. Here's another example: if you don't mind using three strings instead of two, you could play it all in fifth position (frets 5-8), and I'm sure some people would prefer that. I wasn't saying "you have to play it this way", or anything like that!

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Auriplane!!

P.S. Sorry I talk too much .

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

P.S. Sorry I talk too much . . . ;-)

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Auriplane!!

Re: Okay, here you go. I posted

Daugreano

-----Forgotten Guitarist-----

Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Joined: Apr 25 2010

It's OK, i mean it is an easier way to play it compared to what i had and i will look into trying out as many different iterations as i can before submitting some spider fingered tab...Also, I'm glad when people observe and honestly critique anything i make.