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TRANSCRIPTS AND ORIGINAL AS THE THINK.

chimatte

Joined: Dec 19 2016

We try with our tablature to be as faithful as possible to the originals if no transcription is a whole other thing. I say this because I see a lot of pseudo transcripts where the art of the author thought is completely misrepresented. For this I ask for a little more than loyalty. Thank you.

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Rook

Location: US

Joined: Jun 21 2011

you're welcome

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Scarecrowlol

Location: New Zealand

Joined: Jul 06 2012

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It's called arranging it. You

Basisti94

Location: Turku, Finland

Joined: Aug 18 2012

It's called arranging it. You could make a jazz arrangement of To Zanarkand and that would be perfectly cool. You shouldn't really look at arrangements if you are looking for a perfect representation of the original work, which would be a transcription.

Speaking of transcribed or arranged for guitar music.

chimatte

Joined: Dec 19 2016

Arrangement for guitar means to transfer a piece for example written for orchestra or other instruments, the guitar without distorting the piece and you can even call transcript because the transcript is, ultimately, an arrangement as a perfect representation of the original music with the guitar is impossible. The skill of the transcriber is right in playing with the tone of the guitar, with the transport of the various melodies and accompaniments in the low or high of the keyboard as appropriate, that the guitarist has to choose his sounds from Her palette but always in ' harmonious field of autore.Poi is obvious everyone is free to do with music what they want but it must be specified. Can make it become a jazz piece, change the pace, however, change it is always a cry from the original and then one would do better to create them their own music. Then I can not stand the tablature that are not played but only theoretically written without any practice on the instrument and are therefore insuonabili. Or tablature too easier for instrumental incapacity and could do so many examples if anyone wants. Then to finish the music is not measured in freshness but emotions and if we are not the farewell music.

Here is an excerpt of the

Lurker McHuge

Joined: Feb 15 2016

Here is an excerpt of the definition of arrangement according to The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians:

''In the sense in which it is commonly used among musicians, however, the word may be taken to mean either the transference of a composition from one medium to another or the elaboration (or simplification) of a piece, with or without a change of medium. In either case some degree of recomposition is usually involved, and the result may vary from a straightforward, almost literal, transcription to a paraphrase which is more the work of the arranger than of the original composer.''

This does not mean that every musician today accepts this point of view. I personally prefer when an arranger gets creative and adds his own personal twist to the piece.

I understand this can become annoying if you're looking for arrangements expecting absolute loyalty to the original work and every other TAB you find is arranged in a different style.

One possible solution to that problem would be to reassign the arrangements that take creative liberties in a category called rearrangements to differenciate them more easily.

Actually I kind of have no

Rook

Location: US

Joined: Jun 21 2011

Actually I kind of have no use for transcriptions. Why reproduce a piece of music in the exact same way it's already been done? Especially in the case of arrangements which call for octaves or tempo outside of a guitar's practical range. If you're looking for precise transcription, piano is probably your best bet.

arrangements, transcriptions, or if you prefer

chimatte

Joined: Dec 19 2016

When you transcribe or gets by you prefer a song, you go said something personal, it takes more and otherwise would not make sense to make music. What I want to say is that the harmonic structure of the piece goes safeguarded. Listen to these songs (sorry: the recording is poor, made with a small video camera, now I'm gearing up to make the best recordings) and compare them with other tabs and other sound versions of the same pieces that are on the Internet and you will realize that the I say, leaving the word to music: how do you quibble about the pieces so wonderful and already complete,
similar to the originals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb2V08eCxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Wxg8-g7Rc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFb41UNtlpk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsEG76tHkDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4CRlRMn2Qg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaF_jvfBjqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrdWW-jEwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdGaN_Iln8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUWkkZdv9o

I'm having a hard time

thedstring

Nate Brooks

Location: Utah

Joined: Jan 05 2011

I'm having a hard time understanding the problem here.

We usually use the word "transcribe" to mean that the piece is the same as the original but for a different medium. Like to transcribe an audio file of an interview to a text format. You can look up transcriptions of most interviews.

An arrangement is anything that doesn't seem to fit into a "transcription" model.

But that's just my own observation.

What seems to be the problem? Is there actually a problem? Is the dis-connect I'm seeing in this thread caused by some of us not being primarily English speakers?

I'm sorry chimatte, I cannot

thedstring

Nate Brooks

Location: Utah

Joined: Jan 05 2011

I'm sorry chimatte, I cannot seem to make sense of what point you are trying to get across. Would you mind elaborating?

If you are suggesting that

thedstring

Nate Brooks

Location: Utah

Joined: Jan 05 2011

If you are suggesting that the pieces you posted are examples of how an arrangement should be done because they sound like the original, I would have to disagree. Your videos sound really good, but they do not sound like the original songs. A piano arrangement would sound much closer to the original in most cases, but most of these songs are comprised of electrically generated tones from square and sawtooth generators on a synthesizer built into video game consoles. Even in the 90s and into the 2000s we used midi sound fonts rather than real instruments. I still find the occasional song that seems to be used from a sound font rather than a real recording, even when they are mimicing real instruments. Sometimes a straight transcription from a collection of electrically generated tones does not translate seamlessly to a single real instrument.

The guitar has so many limitations that an arrangement for the guitar usually needs to be not accurate. It's funny, it even needs to be changed from the original to sound closer to the original in some cases, for example, voice changes can some times make the guitar piece sound more like the original than a straight transcription because the voices in the original are split up between multiple voices. When you combine many voices into one sometimes you need to prioritize some notes over others by shifting octaves around. This pollutes a pure transcription.

Also, why fault someone for having fun with a song? Music is an art form and art forms are well renowned for pushing boundaries and moving people out of their comfort zones. This point is especially important when many of these songs are 20, 30, or even 40 years old.