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Tips for starting a website

crimsondarkn

Location: Toronto, Canada

Joined: Jul 24 2009

Hello all,

I've been thinking of starting a blog website for myself. I know HTML and that stuff so things should be smooth in terms of technical skills. Unfortunately, I have no idea where
to get a domain name and that sorts. I've read some material online but if anyone here
can summarize it down, and recommend me a good hosting domain, that would be awesome.

Thanks.

This place is big

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

This place is big www.godaddy.com

There's discount codes if you watch episodes of diggnation at www.revision3.com

godaddy.com is a terrible

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

godaddy.com is a terrible company (see http://www.fullyfrank.com/godaddy-is-a-scam), please don't do business with them. I would recommend name.com for registering a domain. I use them myself and they've been great. Reasonable prices, very fast domain propagation, and good control over things like nameservers.

As for hosting, I used the cheapest plan from Surpass Hosting for a long time for this site (am now on a dedicated server) and was very pleased. I've also heard great things about A Small Orange for small, shared hosting plans.

The process of setting the site up basically works like this:

You purchase a domain name from a registrar (e.g. name.com). On the registrar's website you'll be able to configure name servers for the domain. Name servers basically tell the registrar the physical location of the server to send the request to when someone types your domain name in the browser. For a shared hosting plan these will typically be assigned to you automatically, and I think in some cases the hosting company can actually configure them with the registrar themselves. Once the name servers are configured, the registrar sends out a message to all the DNS servers in the world about your new domain. The DNS servers are basically just big databases that associate human readable domain names with IP addresses. Sometimes it can take a few days for your new domain to propagate to all the DNS servers in the world, but I've found that name.com gets the message out to all the major ones within a few hours.

Now assuming that you got all that set up and your domain name points to the server space that you bought, all you need to do is upload your files to a certain directory on your server, using an FTP client. Chances are you'll be using an Apache based web server, and if that's the case then you want to put all your files in a folder called 'public_html'. Typically, the file that you name 'index.html' (or whatever extension you want really) will be the one that gets served to the user when they type in your domain name in the browser. All URLs will be relative to that public_html folder.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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DANG

I use joker.com (and also

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I use joker.com (and also dreamhost for some, but I'm not sure I should be recommending Dreamhost) as a registrar.

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Auriplane!!

That's a bit harsh, archard.

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

That's a bit harsh, archard. True, I've never used the company myself, or any webhost, but for it to be the sponsor of that show every week, rings bells for me (it's the show that comes from the biggest social/technology news site on the web). The founder of the site and show diggs it.

That guy who said it was a scam was probably doing something illegal. He only mentions "This website was selling gaming-related programs." My guess it was gaming hacks and it was suspended following a notice from a games company, like Valve.

Course, though, go with what archard recommends, as he actually does this kinda thing.

No company is perfect http://www.surmunity.com/user-reviews/30361-surpasshosting-stealing-my-m...

A lot of people have

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

A lot of people have complaints about GoDaddy.

True, I've never used the company myself, or any webhost, but for it to be the sponsor of that show every week, rings bells for me (it's the show that comes from the biggest social/technology news site on the web). The founder of the site and show diggs it.

It's called "advertising". Hint: any time an opinion is being paid for, ignore it.

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Auriplane!!

There's a lot of positive

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

There's a lot of positive reviews for godaddy.

Yeah. Anyway, don't use

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Yeah. Anyway, don't use GoDaddy.

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Auriplane!!

Why's that auri? This is

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Why's that auri? This is getting a bit weird again.

I don't think it's worth

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I don't think it's worth drawing out this discussion. Archard and I have given our points of view, and you've given yours. Let's stop belaboring the point.

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Auriplane!!

Ok.. pm me why you think it's

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Ok.. pm me why you think it's not an option for him.

I just said the discussion

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I just said the discussion isn't worth having. That doesn't mean I want to have it privately. Please stop making me respond to this thread.

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Auriplane!!

Re: That's a bit harsh, archard.

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

LTRobson said

That's a bit harsh, archard. True, I've never used the company myself, or any webhost, but for it to be the sponsor of that show every week, rings bells for me (it's the show that comes from the biggest social/technology news site on the web). The founder of the site and show diggs it.

That guy who said it was a scam was probably doing something illegal. He only mentions "This website was selling gaming-related programs." My guess it was gaming hacks and it was suspended following a notice from a games company, like Valve.

Course, though, go with what archard recommends, as he actually does this kinda thing.

No company is perfect http://www.surmunity.com/user-reviews/30361-surpasshosting-stealing-my-money.html

Harsh but true. If you want an endless list of issues/complaints/problems people have with GoDaddy, just type in 'GoDaddy sucks' or something similar into Google. In fact, a whole site has been created just for people to bitch about how much they hate GoDaddy.

But my real issue with GoDaddy isn't their horrible customer service, questionable charges, etc. It's their shady practices of swooping in and buying up domain names you've searched for on their site but haven't bought. They're domain hijackers. Ever wonder why so many good domain names have absolutely no content in them? It's because of companies like GoDaddy that buy them all up and hope to sell them back to people at a much higher price. They're basically using you to pick out the valuable domains. Again, if you want an endless list of stories and evidence for this just type in 'GoDaddy steals domains' or something similar in Google.

By the way, on that forum post you linked, you'll notice that the Surpass staff promptly came in and handled the situation in a professional manner. My experience with them was similar.

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DANG

Ah, but if you'd read why

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Ah, but if you'd read why those people on that godaddysucks site are angry, it was that they're were doing illegal things.

EDIT: "godaddysucks site" = nodaddy.com like there's microsoftsucks, applesucks, macdonaldssuck ect :)

GoDaddy does suck, because

BooDoo

People

Location: Somerville, MA

Joined: Mar 24 2008

GoDaddy does suck, because they hijack and camp domains, like Archard mentioned.

I know plenty of companies that will use their "Customer Service" staff as uninformed, unhelpful, up-selling robots- this is bad, but not exclusive to GoDaddy.

What GoDaddy will do is buy domains searched through their site but not purchased (as mentioned) and also hold onto any domain they've ever registered in perpetuity, after you (or a previous owner) have let it lapse. They will then sell it back to you (or a new owner) at a premium.

They are parasitic and shady and they pollute the gTLD namespace with more noise than signal. As far as I can tell, your defense of them is "They haven't fucked me, and their PR is good." That's a pretty low bar.

ON TOPIC: I have hosting from DreamHost (like Auri, I can't in good conscience recommend them- I just use it because I signed up during a big sale) and Rydia.net. Rydia.net is mostly targeted towards (visual) artists. They're a small, dedicated team with unbelievable server up-time. Their main tech engineer also does work for SixApart (LiveJournal, Vox, et c.) and is a complete wizard. Plus - you get to be hosted by RYDIA!

I'd stay away from GoDaddy for the name alone.

Alexander

Location: California

Joined: Nov 14 2008

But aside from the name, there seem to be enough reasons not to go with them. Go with a company that -has- to treat you right because they aren't the big dog.

Again, based on the name, I'd go with A Small Orange. :)

Well, they're definitely not

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Well, they're definitely not a scam, the negative press is from kids throwing their toys out of the pram. That ryhmed.

And they suck because of buying up domains? Just pick something original.

Re: I'd stay away from GoDaddy for the name alone.

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Alexander said

But aside from the name, there seem to be enough reasons not to go with them. Go with a company that -has- to treat you right because they aren't the big dog.

Again, based on the name, I'd go with A Small Orange. :)

Nice method. I think I'd go with something more established, even if it means costing a bit more.

Re: I'd stay away from GoDaddy for the name alone.

Alexander

Location: California

Joined: Nov 14 2008

Right. Have a nice life.

Re: Well, they're definitely not

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

LTRobson said

Well, they're definitely not a scam, the negative press is from kids throwing their toys out of the pram. That ryhmed.

And they suck because of buying up domains? Just pick something original.

You're kinda missing the point there. Apparently godaddy buys up domains that people search for on their site but do not buy, forcing them to buy it from them if they want that domain name bad enough.

That's bad ethics sir. Fuck I should know, I'm in a legal class revolving around technically legal but shady practices like this.

That is shady, but just find

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

That is shady, but just find out who owns or doesn't own a domain with domain tools like whois then you're sweet.

Of course, but it doesn't

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

Of course, but it doesn't excuse godaddy by any means. Just the point that the company does some unethical things.

Yeah, they can't be excused

LTRobson

"I saw a film today. Oh boy."

Location: England

Joined: Jan 15 2010

Yeah, they can't be excused for that. Reminds me of a swap meet..
They're still a reliable web hosting and registrar company :P (all depending on who you ask)

hehe, this is another fine thread. Another fine mess more like!

So I registered on name.com

crimsondarkn

Location: Toronto, Canada

Joined: Jul 24 2009

So I registered on name.com but now i'm having trouble with surpasshosting... EPP key transfer, correct? Anything else I should know?

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PSN: crimsondarkn

You don't need to transfer

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

You don't need to transfer the domain to surpasshosting. Registration of a domain and hosting it are separate

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Auriplane!!

Yep, you're not transferring

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Yep, you're not transferring anything so you don't need to worry about that.

Also, the support people at Surpass are awesome, you can click the Concierge Live Assistant link and chat with a tech support person via IM.

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DANG

re:

xosta

Joined: Dec 03 2021

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