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Classical pieces sounding like game music

stacatto

Joined: Feb 28 2012

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who enjoys playing classical pieces. Anyone else notice that many times you encounter classical songs that (intentional or not) sound very much like various themes from video games?

Sometimes it's pretty blatant that a piece has served as inspiration, like with FFVI's Dancing Mad and Bach, but other times it's not so clear.

E.g. try playing the second part of this suite and maybe you will hear Yoshi's Island somewhere in there: http://www.classtab.org/fcgrsam.txt

Anyone got any good examples?

Well,I guess that the Bonus

JordanVS

"Hunger is the best spice they say. "

Location: Brazil

Joined: Oct 04 2011

Well,I guess that the Bonus Game from Yoshi's Island sounds a little simitar to Erik Satie's Je te veux.
http://www.classtab.org/satie_je_te_veux.txt
Or is it just me?

I swear that Dance of the

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I swear that Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy sounds *just* like this piece in a video game, but I forget which...

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Now that you mention it I can

stacatto

Joined: Feb 28 2012

Now that you mention it I can definitely hear the bonus music. Weird, I was just playing Je te veux today.

Re: I swear that Dance of the

stacatto

Joined: Feb 28 2012

musenji said

I swear that Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy sounds *just* like this piece in a video game, but I forget which...

Think I found it randomly playing some Kabukibear tabs :)

http://www.gametabs.net/nes/tetris/theme-a

"Sounds like" may be an understatement though.

Re: I swear that Dance of the

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Yes, it was a joke--I know that it's the exact same piece. :D

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

I tried to get more into

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

I tried to get more into playing classical pieces but after playing some I have to say... Most of them are really boring :C

VGM is so much more captivating and fun, anyone else feel that way ?

Well, it is easier to get

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

Well, it is easier to get excited about things you like.
But i get what you are saying. A lot of classical pieces i "learned" are very technical and kinda uninteresting . .

But they are great for theoretical lessons and practice. Here are some i learned but are kinda boring:

Villa Lobos Etude 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_GIu7dDeUQ (get the right hand speed)

this btw. sounds like the beginning of The Top Gear Theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjybkR27UOA -> i actually think its even the same right hand pattern

Villa Lobos Etude 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldhh6FrM4H4 (split the chords!)
Bach Prelude in D Minor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s2Glv_lXFg ( i kinda liked to practice this piece )

Then again there are intresting pieces i really had fun to learn as well! For example:

Villa-Lobos Choros 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU_MqgVdmyc
BAch fugue BWV 1001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68Bvdx-iL8

Can villa lobos even be considered as classic? Eh, whatever~

What actual pieces did you try?

https://www.youtube.com/watch

Jacob31593

Location: Tampa, FL

Joined: Jan 04 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKnZERtb0Qg

Ennea could you give a few

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Ennea could you give a few examples of classical guitar pieces you consider boring? What bores you in music, and what excites you?

Honestly I think it's very difficult to argue that, on a musical basis alone, there is more value to be had in video game music for guitar than in classical guitar music.

I think you probably just haven't heard the *right* classical guitar music...or, maybe you like the game music more because it gives you all the happy feels of the memories of that game?

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

To a certain point I get what

stacatto

Joined: Feb 28 2012

To a certain point I get what he means. I think game music tends to be very cantabile and (to some degree) cliche. You get some really memorable melodies out of it. Many are easy and fun to play, and often sound more impressive than they really are. I'll admit there are many types of classical compositions that I find really boring. It takes a little while to find the good ones!

Of course, I love playing

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Of course, I love playing game music as well, and I agree it can be more fun than playing regular classical music. I wouldn't have gone through the site's *entire* database of fingerstyle music if I didn't think that!

I'm just saying, I wonder what real classical repertoire Ennea has been exposed to. I definitely have a few gems to show, if all he's heard are lesser etudes.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

I think my statement was a

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

I think my statement was a bit too generalized. When I played some I randomly clicked through the classtab website to see if I can find some entertaining pieces, some were alright but most were, as clanver said, more technical instead of captivating. VGM is a lot more centered around the sound itself guess that's why it feels more interesting or "catchy" to play, even tracks of games I've never even heard of before. Of course there are some pretty terrible examples as well but it's all about personal taste.

It's not that I dislike classical pieces per se, but the majority of the tracks I tried were rather bland. Couple were alright but also nothing that was inspiring in any way.

So what kind of stuff

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

So what kind of stuff inspires you? Could you give a couple examples of your favorite music for guitar?

I could tell you all the pieces I think are amazing, but who knows, you might totally disagree. So I thought maybe if you gave a few you really love, I could find you a couple that would be more to your taste.

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For example, I think this piece is exhilirating and badass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4YngQ49dSw

But heck, someone could say "too many fast notes, it sounds too technical, I like stuff that I can play pretty easily but still sounds good", and there is really no argument against that--it's personal taste.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

I LOVE when people do

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

I LOVE when people do creative stuff with their guitar like Luca Stricagnoli, his way of thinking out of the box is inspiring to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kbv1OpIpaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMQVyGOZylg

Apart from that I'm a fan of Antoine Dufour but that's simply because of his style and sound. As I said it's not that I dislike classical music per se, playing some pieces are pretty neat, but most of the time they feel very straightforward and... blunt I guess. Don't think my english is good enough to express a detailled musical analysis, sorry :P

I like your track though.

Oh man.I thought the other

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Oh man.

Mohicans:

I thought the other guitars were just kinda there for ambience, didn't really think about them. When he got on with his bit, I laughed a bit, actually said "holy crap" out loud. It's a great track. I wonder how much post-recording eq and stuff he did, or if it sounds that good live. It'd be fun to *see* him live.

Future:

It started off seriously gorgeous, although the tapped harmonics got a little tiring/incessant after a while.

Antoine Dufour...ah! Okay.

So, the thing about Candyrat artists is, they do have a lot of "out of the box" experimentation, but then after a while it all starts to sound the same to me. Lots of tapping, lots of harmonics, not as much melody. I hear fragments of musical ideas, but it's all chopped up, segmented...if that makes sense. And musical ideas, and subtlety, are what I love the most.

I wish I knew more than one German word!

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

'Under Siege' from Hyrule

Solid Snake

Joined: Jul 22 2008

'Under Siege' from Hyrule Warriors isn't so much influenced by as almost exactly like a section of Gustav Holst's 'Mars'.

From 4:16 in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q

Under Siege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0iazARMXs

Both pieces are awesome!