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The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Well I just spent 3 agonizing hours putting this new layout up. I say agonizing because I ran into to so many issues during the process that I have just about lost the will to live. I know there's a lot of things I still need to fix, and I'll do that after a good night's sleep.

I hope you all like the layout, please leave comments and suggestions in this topic.

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VoxHumana

You spoony bard!

Joined: Apr 20 2008

:) I likes it!

The picture of a NES with a sheet of music coming out of the cartridge bay is über cool ^^

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Thank you. I actually payed someone to do that, considering I have no graphic design skills whatsoever :D Turned out pretty good I think.

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DANG

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Waladuz

Der Kritiker

Location: Germany

Joined: May 31 2008

Neat design, archard. I've been visiting this site for almost two years now and you seem to change to the design quite often...(Thinking about it, this here is the 4th layout change you've had since Winter 2006)

The colors are well chosen. I like warm tones and the new logo is quite innovative!

Fine work, indeed!

I really can't complain about the design...

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yoshistrings

ヨッシー

Location: trapped in an egg

Joined: Oct 29 2007

thank goodness. I was about to go crazy looking at the old layout every day.

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L10N

I am the user, Lybaerd

Joined: Feb 10 2008

Nice effin layout.
Way cooler than the last, I like the logo too.
..and a bookmark icon! Now it even looks cool in the firefox bookmark toolbar.

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Zero

The Red Mega Man

Location: Right behind you

Joined: Oct 05 2007

I likes it! It kinda just blew up in my face when the page loaded and I was like " Freaking Awesome!"

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nivlek

Joined: Apr 26 2008

It looks great!

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Thanks for the feedback guys. What do you think about the new forum skin? I wasn't really feeling the old one so I decided to go for a completely different look.

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DANG

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MetalMario702

The Mario of Metal

Location: Rhode Island

Joined: Oct 27 2007

hey man, just gonna be honest, im not really liking it that much... The new logo and the navigation (including a tabs button) arent so bad, but the theme just doesnt feel right. the colors dont seem to flow as well. call me old fashioned, but it feels alot more amateur to me...

The new forum with more smilies and colors is nice though =D

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

"MetalMario702" posted:

hey man, just gonna be honest, im not really liking it that much... The new logo and the navigation (including a tabs button) arent so bad, but the theme just doesnt feel right. the colors dont seem to flow as well. call me old fashioned, but it feels alot more amateur to me...

The new forum with more smilies and colors is nice though =D

I guess you're not being sarcastic 8-)

Well I appreciate the negative feedback because I never like it when I only get positive feedback. Could you be a little more specific about what you don't like? Out of all the things you could say, the new layout being more amateur than the old one kinda blows my mind. To me it's the exact opposite. I never liked the old layout because to me it just looked like it was kinda thrown together sloppily (which is true).

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DANG

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Sinergy

Joined: Aug 05 2007

hey man great layout, i dont really post in here that much and i only have 2 tabs here but i come in almost daily, i just wanted to say good work and its looks great, thanks a lot

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Rick

Unusual

Joined: Apr 17 2007

Yeah, the green font and pale sides are weird, in all honesty

The logo is cool, the way Game Tabs is written feels like Game Tabs

I like the home button and all those

The Tabs IS easy to use/navigate, it just seems so hidden (as already stated)

But everything else is cool

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Alright, due to the complaints about the Browse Tabs By Console list that everyone loves so much, I put it back up on the left sidebar. I'm still gonna keep the Tabs drop down list up though, cause I think it's cool :) And it's a good way to list the other categories.

I'm also thinking about changing the color scheme around a little bit. Seems like that's the only other problem people are having and I can see where they're coming from.

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DANG

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MetalMario702

The Mario of Metal

Location: Rhode Island

Joined: Oct 27 2007

like i said the colors are one of the main things. if you decide to stick with a color i would suggest the green-ish on the side menu, the black and light/dark blue dont really seem to fit the feel of the site to me. the tabs drop--down menu on the navigation is kinda glitchy for me im not sure if its cause im using opera or not.

the logo and forum style are nice though :D

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Joined: Dec 31 1969

I love the new look - even before i joined here, i was always here. and it looks awesome and it's more user friendly it think. Keep up the spectacurlar work!

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archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

"MetalMario702" posted:

like i said the colors are one of the main things. if you decide to stick with a color i would suggest the green-ish on the side menu, the black and light/dark blue dont really seem to fit the feel of the site to me. the tabs drop--down menu on the navigation is kinda glitchy for me im not sure if its cause im using opera or not.

the logo and forum style are nice though :D

Wait so your problem is with the color scheme yet you like the colors??? :shock:

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DANG

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rancidfetus

Classical Metalhead

Joined: Oct 09 2007

My complaint is only a minor suggestion. I'd like it if the Game Tabs logo at the top linked back to the home page. Pretty much all of the sites I visit do this, and I've picked up the habit of clicking it to return to the home page. The link to go to the home page is right next to the logo, but it's not natural for me to click there first. I might just be weird, so whatev. Otherwise, I am really enjoying the new setup. I have no legitimate complaints.

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Joined: Dec 31 1969

The logo at the top is the background image. @[email protected]

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archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

"Enterim" posted:

The logo at the top is the background image. @[email protected]

:shock: :?:

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DANG

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Joined: Dec 31 1969

is just the background image for the part at the top. There's no foreground up there.

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archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Are you using an ad blocker? (shame on you if you are) The rest of the space up there should be occupied by an ad unit.

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DANG

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Joined: Dec 31 1969

Oh, wow. I was wondering what all the spaces up there were for.

Fine, I'll keep Adblock Plus disabled for http://gametabs.net.

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Zelos

Location: Germany

Joined: Jan 31 2008

I already told you that I would prefer this new design in blue...so I'll be waiting for an option to choose from green and blue. :P
Other than that some small bug:
Two of my recordings show the same video two times (the upper two). I don't know why though.

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

"Zelos" posted:

I already told you that I would prefer this new design in blue...so I'll be waiting for an option to choose from green and blue. :P
Other than that some small bug:
Two of my recordings show the same video two times (the upper two). I don't know why though.

Yeah I know why it's doing that, kinda hard to explain but I just have to go in there and manually fix them.

I'm thinking about coming up with a new color scheme. Same design, just with blue colors basically. Green is probably the hardest color scheme to pull off when it comes to web designs. And I kinda miss the blue too.

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DANG

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Rick

Unusual

Joined: Apr 17 2007

you could do something small

Like you know, create a gradient

Blue/Green

Make it fun so everyone wins

I mean, that's why I eat cereal

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

jlong22

Joined: Oct 11 2007

You probably already know about this, unless it's browser specific, but just pointing out that in Safari, the logo is aligned to the right of the header on all pages of the site except the forums. This pushes the google ads down underneath the navigation bar and covers up the top of the content area.

If this is in Safari only and you can't see this, let me know and I can get a screenshot for you if you want. Also, I mentioned this in the comments of the news post but I am very good with php and also fairly decent with graphics so I can help out with anything site-related if you want :) I'd like to give back a little to the site since I've gotten so much out of it.

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Could you post that screenshot jlong? I'm a windows user so I don't think I can download Safari.

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Also, I have somewhat PHP related question. It's more general computer science though. Do you know how to use a base 36 digit number system? In particular, the 'vancode' system? There's a problem with how some of the comments are displaying right now and I need to figure out this base 36 system in order to fix it.

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Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

Just got rid of the sidebar for the forum. Wasn't really much use for that other than to make the forum and main site feel more "unified"... but I think this looks much better.

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DANG

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jlong22

Joined: Oct 11 2007

Here's the screenshot:

http://www.mitsenf.com/header.png

edit: whoops, linked it cause it's a little too big for the forums.

Unfortunately I've never really worked with anything other than base-10. I understand the concept of a base-36 system so I might be able to figure out what's wrong by looking at the code but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to give much advice. What's the display issue? It seems strange that you should have to use a base-36 system to fix something like that.

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archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

The way the comments are threaded is based on a base-36 system. I'm not really sure why they decided to go with base-36, because it seems like it could easily be done in base-10. Anyway, I got it all figured out and wrote a script to fix the problem. You may have noticed before that sometimes comments didn't show up where they were supposed to. When I migrated the old comments over from WordPress I neglected the whole threading thing, and thus a lot of the comments were displayed basically randomly. Should be fixed now, let me know if you find any comments that are still out of whack.

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DANG

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Joined: Dec 31 1969

Base-36? I'm assuming that's 10 digits + 26 letters, but that sounds confusing. Anything past base-16 goes over my head.

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archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

"Enterim" posted:

Base-36? I'm assuming that's 10 digits + 26 letters, but that sounds confusing. Anything past base-16 goes over my head.

Yep that's it. It's confusing as hell. Starts out 0-9, then 10 = a, z = 35, then it repeats so 36 = 10.

"jlong22" posted:

You probably already know about this, unless it's browser specific, but just pointing out that in Safari, the logo is aligned to the right of the header on all pages of the site except the forums. This pushes the google ads down underneath the navigation bar and covers up the top of the content area.

If this is in Safari only and you can't see this, let me know and I can get a screenshot for you if you want. Also, I mentioned this in the comments of the news post but I am very good with php and also fairly decent with graphics so I can help out with anything site-related if you want :) I'd like to give back a little to the site since I've gotten so much out of it.

This issue should be fixed now. Let me know if anything comes up.

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DANG

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

So I've been thinking about all the feedback I've gathered and I've been talking to some of my graphic design inclined friends about the layout and I've decided to change a few things around. Nothing major, the basic look and feel will remain the same, but there will be some significant changes.

First, I'm gonna move both sidebars to the right side of the page. I've been experimenting with this and it really helps shift the focus in the correct areas. Right now I feel like information is a little too busy and scattered. Moving the sidebars to the right and all the content to the left helps keep things a lot more organized.

Second, I'm gonna get rid the blue background. According to one of my friends the layout has no "flow", and I don't think you can really identify a true "theme" from this layout. So the color scheme is gonna stay green, but move to more of a true, well defined green that "flows". I'm also gonna eliminate a lot of the borders. The forum theme will also change to match the layout of the main site better.

I think this will satisfy both people who like the green (which is the majority) and those who didn't like it as much. This new scheme I have in mind is much less in your face and flows much better. I've also been thinking about having multiple color schemes and letting people switch between them. But that will be later down the line.

Tell me what you think.

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DANG

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

Joined: Dec 31 1969

What happened to the New Tabs part of the site, I liked that.

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TrangOul

Insomaniac

Location: Germany

Joined: Feb 24 2008

In my opinion the new style's weakness lies within this forum. I can't exactly describe why, but it feels awkward to browse through it.
Furthermore the shoutbox does not work (at least for me it doesn't)and there's no Search button, just the Google Search plugin for the whole site.

Re: The Official New Layout Topic

archard

Joined: Jan 11 2007

That's understandable. I'll try to make this forum as "forum-like" as possible. I was really having a lot of trouble with the old forum though, and I really think you guys will like the new forum once I get everything up to full steam. Is there any particular reasons why it feels awkward? The more specific you are the better I can remedy the situation.

I'm not sure what's up with the shoutbox but I'll try to fix it.

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