Hmm
BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
A good portion of the tabs submitted are done by a small group of people who mainly play classic, a lot of people also learn classic before picking up electric. But I can see where your coming from, I have some time off so and have been wanting to cover some heavier songs :) |
Honestly it's refreshing to
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
Honestly it's refreshing to see classical/fingerstyle guitar here because every other guitarist I run into is either a meathead that only knows chuggy metal songs or some lameass trying to pick up girls with Jon Mayer songs. |
I'm loving it. It's a hundred
Choogly
Joined: Jul 01 2010 |
I'm loving it. It's a hundred times better than having boring, single line melody stuff. I looove the classical selection on this site, and there are some seriously talented tabbers keeping the site constantly relevant and exciting. |
Video game geeks who learn
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
Video game geeks who learn video game music on guitar, on average, do not have friends in real life who are also interested in video game music (or even friends in real life, generally speaking). This means we cannot find people to play the songs with us in person. Therefore, to have covers that sound remotely good, we have to arrange them for fingerstyle guitar (which can have melody, bass and harmony all at once)...or else record electric soloing over midi tracks, which is a very, very sad thing to do, but the most common thing on youtube. Or you can record multiple tracks and mix them together, but most of us suck too much to do that. I am a horrible, horrible person.
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BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
Hah true enough Musenji, ya see the trick is you have to just start writing material for a band and just channel your VG music into that! But it's true near impossible to find people who love VG music and just want to play it :( |
I get what you're saying, but
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
I get what you're saying, but I think the bulk of the tabs that get attention (aka the fingerstyle arrangements) do so because they demonstrate the tabber/arranger's individuality, creativity, or whatever. I think it's kinda cool hearing a different take on a song I know. Obviously making a metal remix (or something to that effect) is also possible, but I feel like that's a little different. Of course, this is all just my opinion. I do both transcriptions and arrangements (fingerstyle and rock), so yeah this issue doesn't bother me much.
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Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
karathrow said
Um Excuse me? Metal is the Widest Genre of music known to man. There are more Music that resembles Video game scores in Metal than all the other genres.
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Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
Giogiogio4 said
Every other guitarist Karathrow runs into doesn't account for the entire metal genre...
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such zeal in that one
Jacob31593
Location: Tampa, FL Joined: Jan 04 2009 |
such zeal in that one |
Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
ChelseaRare said
Simmer down now The Ship, you weren't even in the original Monopoly game. ...Okay I researched that and it's incorrect. The battleship was always included with the other themed tokens, even the first set which was made of *rubber*. So why didn't we ever have one growing up, huh? And we had two Monopoly sets! One of them was uber-old. I remember going to my friend's house, and her monopoly set had the battleship, which I thought was so cool because ours didn't. I am certain that we never had it--so if it was lost at some point, it was before I started playing.
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Re: Video game geeks who learn
worldeditor11
Joined: Jul 28 2012 |
musenji said
Very true indeed. |
Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
RexLeRouge
IMPACTO Joined: Aug 15 2008 |
Giogiogio4 said
I fail to understand the meaning of that sentence. |
I'm happy with the load of
Ennea
humhum.. Location: Germany Joined: Apr 09 2010 |
I'm happy with the load of fingerstyle arrangements lately. These arrangements can sound like anything, jazz, blues, rock, classical etc. the possiblities are endless. I'm not a electric guitar player myself so I might be wrong here but I think many notes from fingerstyle arrangements can just be copied into a rock arrangement, splitting the melody and harmony and adding some powerchords with the bass notes or something like that ?! |
Reason I personally post
Basisti94
Location: Turku, Finland Joined: Aug 18 2012 |
Reason I personally post mostly fingerstyle arrangements here is that whenever I want to play something else (bass and some acoustic guitar in my case), I rarely play video game or anime music. |
Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
musenji said
The Ship? Friends actually call me The Boat, but that'll do. If I play Monopoly, I most certainly will fight over the battleship piece. Unless it was the gold pieces. As for simmering down, well I dunno. Maybe it was just me, but I thought Gio's defensiveness in that post was a little unnecessary, like he took it as a personal attack or something. If that's a perception or reading comprehension mistake on my part, then whoops. Otherwise, whatevs. I'm just here for shits and giggles in the end.
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musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
ChelseaRare said
My friend's set was actually the gold pieces, lol Telling you to simmer down was just an excuse to make the monopoly comment. :-)
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Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
musenji said
Ah I should know better by now. I feel like you bring up monopoly any chance you get when addressing me xD
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Classical guitars <3, i
Clanver
Pixelfingers cant play Location: Germany, Kiel Joined: Jan 03 2009 |
Classical guitars <3, |
Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
I think it was just twice: this time, and my initial discovery of what the avatar was. But the latter was several months ago, so for the last half-year at least, yep, me talking to you has been 100% about monopoly.
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i havent made a tab in half a
Jacob31593
Location: Tampa, FL Joined: Jan 04 2009 |
i havent made a tab in half a year you guys :( also electric guitar transcriptions dont make something a rock arrangement! |
Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
Hm. Makes sense. They should come up with an jet play piece.
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I agree with Jacob on that
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
I agree with Jacob on that one. Transcriptions don't equate to arrangements, though they can help lead to one , easy
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Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
RexLeRouge said
Why don't you read the original statement that Said " Metal heads only play chuggy music to try to get girls". Yes because this is genric and chuggy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MR00hMM75Yw#t=... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=78xKCM-bk1Q#t=... There are more Video game/movie scorish sounding bands in Metal than there are actual Music composers in the gaming industry.
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Re: Honestly it's refreshing to
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
Giogiogio4 said
That's pretty blatantly incorrect. Karathrow said that he runs into meatheads who only know chuggy metal songs, OR guys who want to impress girls with John Mayer songs. He was *not* combining the two categories (meatheads and Mayerheads) into one group, nor was he saying that "chuggy metal" was the only kind of metal. It just happens to be the kind of metal played by the meatheads he meets. Furthermore, karathrow was only referring to his own experience, which doesn't imply that those types are all that exist anywhere.
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I didn't expect the subject to be so popular!
Gigawowski
Bomb jumping, it gets you everywhere. Location: Eugene, OR Joined: Mar 30 2012 |
I wasn't in anyway talking bad about Classical. I wish I could play classical music better. I tried to learn Classical Gas once, I got about half way through the fast part and then set it down but never came back to it :( I was more or less just curious why so many people chose to record with the classical guitar tone. You can do classical arrangements on steel string (though admittedly, the string width can pose a huge problem on some of those more nasty chords and stretches). I think Musenji's comment is probably my favorite answer. The community on here isn't full of people who have devoted their time and energy into musical production and don't all have high-end DAW's sitting around that they've become professionals using over the last 10 years or something like that. We're all just dudes and chicks who like video games and play with what we have. Which for most of us is probably our parent's or friend's or free guitar we found and we play the mother @#$%ing @!#$ out of it. Damnit Jim, we're musicians not doctors man. The only quip I have with classical guitars is the pricing for quality. I have them in the same category as I do Hollow-body and semi-hollow-body guitars. You've got your crappy $300 Epiphone and a couple other brands and then your $1500-$3000 and nothing in between. I kinda see classical guitars the same way. It just seems hard to get a hold of a good one for a decent price. I would love to be told otherwise. |
Re: I didn't expect the subject to be so popular!
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
Gigawowski said
There are a few decent ones in between. You just have to look at the company that makes them. I had an Ibanez classical thin body. Was my favorite classical ever. The only issue I had with it was the neck was normal classical size, I didn't learn to after I get rid of it that classical guitars actually have wider neck sizes to choose from. So i stuck with my 7 string electric guitar. You don't tend to find mid range guitars from those small high end places. Small high end places make high end guitars because well that's what they do. But bigger companies that do a ton of mass producing will make the midrange stuff.
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I don't think anybody thought
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
I don't think anybody thought you were saying classical was bad--just overrepresented here. Which is possible--and the response seems to be "I like that it is overrepresented here, because it's underrepresented everywhere else." Aside from my response, which btw was half-kidding. While it's true that it's very hard to find people who care to play VG music along with us in real life, it is possible, if you're willing to do most of the work to set it up (making sheet music for a soloist, for example). I would say most of us have our own guitars, but most of us can't afford high-end stuff. You can get good classicals between 500-1500. That's actually the prime range for a student model in my opinion, if you know what to look for. Steel string guitars do make classical style more difficult due to the neck width, good call there. Also steel strings take more pressure to depress, and they hurt a bit more on the fingers. And, you can't get the variety of tone and dynamics out of a steel string that you can out of a nylon.
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I got a takamine C128 from
surreal
Eric: tank,godlike Location: Arizona Joined: Jan 04 2009 |
I got a takamine C128 from the craig list. Talked the kid down to 150 dollar after I told him the tuning machine pegs were cracking. Replacing them cost less than twenty dolla. Best classical for the buck I've ever owned. Also, while there definitely is a distinction between high quality manufacturers and mass production companies, it is not without a middle ground; try buying a 300 dollar carvin steel string from its general cobalt production line. South Korea makes a much better guitar for the money than anyone around here can do. Try Canada too. |
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RexLeRouge
IMPACTO Joined: Aug 15 2008 |
Giogiogio4 said
Well, apparently I'm not the one who should read people posts here... Thanks for the precision. Still don't understand what "lol, metal have a bigger dick then vgm" has to do in this thread though. |
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yashakenkyaku
Joined: Nov 24 2009 |
surreal said
That's where they make Seagulls. o.o Those are the guitars dreams are made out of . (*-*) |
Re: I didn't expect the subject to be so popular!
Clanver
Pixelfingers cant play Location: Germany, Kiel Joined: Jan 03 2009 |
Gigawowski said
eww, there are pieces which work fine on steel strings but in most cases for me the steel strings just have way to much "brilliance". In the past i only had a nice steel string guitar (was recommended to me because most people play steel strings or so he said) and a really cheap 30€ nylon guitar. And i just played and enjoyed the 30€ guitar way more . . |
Mr. LeRouge, it's a metal
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
Mr. LeRouge, it's a metal head thing. \m/
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Fingerstyle vs Classical
MisterM2402
Joined: Oct 31 2012 |
I agree with what musenji is saying, I like being able to play music on my own. Being able to play all parts of a piece at once is a really satisfying experience. Plus there's the fact I'm the only one out of my guitar playing friends who's really into video game music. And also that if you want to play with other people, you have to arrange to meet up; with solo arrangements, you can play and practise whenever you want. Also, I'd like to say there's a distinction between "classical" and "fingerstyle". Most of what is on this site I would term "fingerstyle" - being arranged for a solo nylon stringed guitar doesn't necessarily mean it has any classical elements to it. While I like playing classical pieces from time to time, little of what I play is actually classical, it's all fingerstyle arrangements of video game tunes. To be fair, if I'm ever talking to people about guitar, I usually just call it "classical" for simplicity, since few people know what "fingerstyle" means and how it's different (plus I'd likely get funny looks if I mentioned it was video game music :P). |
Canadian Guitars
BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
If your looking at Canadian guitars also take a look a Godin, they own Seagull and put out some really amazing guitars. Granted they can be a bit more expensive but even their cheaper line up is still very solid guitars. |
I'm big on Takamine guitars,
ChelseaRare
Location: New York Joined: Dec 01 2008 |
I'm big on Takamine guitars, though their prices can be up there. Every so often you can probably get a decent deal or sale at the stores. Or try reasoning with the sales people. I've gotten discounts on guitars and amps for being floor models and such.
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SAD BUT TRUE mooseenji but
YogurtJoined: May 23 2011 |
SAD BUT TRUE mooseenji but who needs friends anyway |
Re: What's the deal with all the classical guitars?
awesomeman321
Joined: Jan 27 2012 |
If you check out either my recordings they are all electric guitar with a bit of acoustic and classical guitar but like 80% electric. Or here is a link to my YouTube channel it has more covers: http://www.youtube.com/user/awesomeman32l
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Re: I didn't expect the subject to be so popular!
diralark
Joined: Dec 10 2009 |
To play fingerstyle a $150 nylon guitar is good enought for a beginner. Generally YAMAHA C40 is recommended. It's only to begin with "flamenca" style u need a more solid body, so its up to $400-500(also beginner model) [check with Gabriela (how she hits her poor guitar)] btw I don't think classical guitar = classical music (i just hate most of that anyway), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZhclQLau4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN5B5OdnnPo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBIGmjQhpGY Don't care what kind of guitar u use, once u acquiered the skill, u re free to play all u want ^^ Ofc I realize how metal cords are required to play the rock (in a hard way) : |
Gigawowski
Bomb jumping, it gets you everywhere.
Location: Eugene, OR
Joined: Mar 30 2012
Dont get me wrong, I love classical guitar and am kinda jealous because I want one myself, but so many classical guitar posts. I'd love to see more electric and acoustic work. Maybe it's just been this time of the year everyone is breaking out their out-door guitars. :)