Re: New Microphone! sample recordings
BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
Really I think you could use all of these variables to help tweak your recordings to fit with a song and help a guitar stand out if you happen to have more than one track going. So far what I've heard listening through my Sennheiser Hd598's: 1. The bass notes where really overwhelming and got a bit distorted. Personally I'd go with #3, and #5 and my fav's here, all of them are usable except for #1 which has to much bass. |
They all have something good
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
They all have something good to them. Number 1 sounded great But not by itself. Find a decent EQ and mess around as well, because you can also end up finding a sweet spot that gets the best of a few of these just with a simple eq.
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Just a side note, these are
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
Just a side note, these are different performances of the same scale, and while I tried to perform them as identically as possible, there are bound to be performance differences. I'm guessing that the slides that were more audible for one of the recordings were in my playing, not the mic setting. Basically I've come up with three things that I am looking for in the ideal setup: 1. The basses are solid, but not too boomy I know that with a lower-end mic, it will be hard to balance these things out...but it's true, I didn't EQ any of these, and this is only in one room. Bigheadclan, so 1, 2, and 3 are cardioid (mono) while 4, 5, and 6 are stereo. Do you have a fundamental preference between the two modes--1 vs 4, 2 vs 5, 3 vs 6?
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4 seemed like the best to me.
jitJoined: Mar 04 2009 |
4 seemed like the best to me. The high frequencies sounded fuller than some of the other ones. A little too bassy for my liking but you can adjust the amount of bass by experimenting the distance of your guitar and the amount of proximity effect. Everything else you can work on in post processing. I would probably add a high-pass filter to take away some of those nasty frequencies. Maybe an EQ and boost/cut what you think might sound good. |
For a Mic I would have went
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
For a Mic I would have went for this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oA5bLQUU4JE Industry Standard mics tend to be rather good. Just like the SM57 is for Electric stuff. Mics can cost Thousands, but in reality you tend to see the good old 100$ Mic used in more professional stuff. I rarely see Musicians go out of their way to use those super mics.. If the Studio they are in has them then great but im sure the good ol SM57 and CAD from the video would do wonders. ( just words of thought ).
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Jit: for clarification, I
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
Jit: for clarification, I was experimenting with distance already. :-) The clips are as follows: 1. cardioid, 6 inches from the soundhole ...I did find that moving farther away reduced the proximity effect/boominess, although it also increased the white noise after normalization. And initially, 4 was my favorite of all the samples I'd recorded. However, I was listening on earbuds so I didn't know about the boominess. :p Now that I do, I may have to settle for a happy medium by moving the mic farther away...though I also have yet to experiment with recording in different rooms. It may be that if I record in a better-sounding room, I can have the mic at a distance that avoids the boominess while maintaining the fullness of higher frequencies. Thanks for the thoughts, gio! I will definitely mess around with EQ a little bit. If I find that I simply can't get full highs without boomy lows, then I may just EQ out the boomy lows. As to mic selection, I specifically avoided the SM57 because it is a dynamic mic, not a condenser. Everyone I've talked to thus far who has experience recording classical guitars says that you need the condenser mic to pick up the whole frequency spectrum. The CADs mentioned in the video look decent, but they would be 100 apiece, plus whatever it would cost to get a good preamp. I wasn't ready to take that much of a plunge yet, and the Yeti is hopefully very re-sellable.
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I thought number 5 sounded
Lemoncobbler
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Location: SoCal Joined: Dec 22 2010 |
I thought number 5 sounded the best. I don't know mixing terms, so I can't tell you why, but it just sounded the best, the basses and trebles sounded balanced and I couldn't hear the fret board as much. |
@musenji
BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
Well as I've and other have said all of them are more than usable especially if you do some EQ work, whether or not they are in stereo or mono depends what you plan to use them for. When I record I usually prefer to use Mono for tracks like rhythm and stereo for leads and melodies, especially if they have any reverb with them. I've heard the Yeti is a bit sensitive to the "P" test which probably accounts for the boomy bass in some of the recordings. Invest $20 bucks and get yourself a "Pop filter" to place in-front of the Mic and that should let you place your guitar wherever you want without issue. Good choice taking the Yeti over the SM57, Sm57 seemed to loose the sparkle when it's being used for recording acoustic. |
I like the thought process.
jitJoined: Mar 04 2009 |
I like the thought process. I'm not no expert or recording engineer, but personally I would record closer so when you normalize(if you really must), the white noise is not as prevalent. With EQing/filtering/whatever you have, you can cut out all the sub bass and have a steep cut around the bass area. It's much easier to cut sound, then to add sound(in my experience). What program are you using to record and do you do a lot of post processing or is that the .wav file straight from recording? If you aren't too big in post processing, then yes, you're probably right on checking out different rooms that are more recording friendly. You could also try reflection filters since a lot of people rave about them, but they are really costly. They apparently do an amazing job of getting rid of that unwanted room ambience and serves as a pretty decent sound treatment. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Reflexion Or you could also probably make a home made out with glue, foam padding, and a stand. Hope this helps a bit. |
Re: @musenji
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008 |
BigHeadClan said
No, it's proximity effect.
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Huh I expected that the
BigHeadClanJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
Huh I expected that the filter would lessen the impact of the low frequencies, well disregard my last bit of advice for the "pop filter" and save yourself $20 bucks. Unless your planning on doing some vocal recordings! Wish I had an Auriplane that fallowed me around everywhere and told me when I was being silly, shame it's only limited to gametabs :( |
Anyone who listened to the
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010 |
Anyone who listened to the previous clips, I thought I'd share a couple more from a different room: I do prefer stereo over cardioid for recording so far, it just feels more "live" and less dry to me.
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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same. |
musenji
Joined: Feb 02 2010
So I went for the Blue Yeti microphone. It has 4 different recording settings, and I am experimenting with as many factors as I can manage, to find out what will get the best sound. I am curious what you all think, so I have narrowed it down to 2 settings, with the distance being the only other variable.
What do you think of these clips? What do you hear? Do you have a favorite? And how are you listening?
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Cardioid,%206in,%20soundhole.mp3
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Cardioid,%2012in,%20soundhole.mp3
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Cardioid,%2024in,%20soundhole.mp3
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Stereo,%206in,%20soundhole.mp3
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Stereo,%2012in,%20soundhole.mp3
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/Stereo,%2024in,%20soundhole.mp3
For all those who told me to get a new microphone, thanks, and here is the old one:
http://sandwich.quarplet.com/musenji/USB%20Logitech%206%20in%20soundhole...