The most overrated/underrated pc game and anime

Rook

Location: US

Joined: Jun 21 2011

worldeditor11 said

opinions

If you have any new suggestion or argument,feel free to post it in this thread.

I most certainly do have argument

Giogiogio4

For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet...

Joined: Jun 10 2010

Hey Naruto is GREAT, wait I mean THE MANGA is great. Can't stand most of the anime. It fell apart after the first few seasons once the animation kept changing. It's a simple story for sadness,hatred and burden and how it is forced onto future generations through wars that were waged in the past.

The worst part of it is the children who can't read into the character development and just care about "Cool moves" and have become a plague on the community.

I would say that .Hack//sign was EXTREMELY underrated.

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

Anime sucks. Kill yourselves weeaboos.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Oh, look! Trolls!

Anyway.

Except for a few episodes of Dragon Ball, I haven't seen any of the shows you listed, so I can't really comment on underrated vs overrated. This is an argument in Dragon Ball's favor, though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deHETMzXesI

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Haha. I've only seen the first few episodes where Gokuu is a little kid running around with Bulma.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Haha, I don't remember that, but it sounds like something that Gokuu would say.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

karathrow said

auriplane said

Haha. I've only seen the first few episodes where Gokuu is a little kid running around with Bulma.

Doesn't he ask her why she has a butt on her chest?

While naked?

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

You mean Full Metal Alchemist:Brotherhood.Oh yeah, Usagi Drop is only 12 episode long for your information.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Yeah, I do mean the series that is called Brotherhood in English. I never saw the original series. (Well, I did, but I only got the first DVD, which I think was four episodes.) So you guys think the second one is better?

And hooray! Usagi Drop is on Crunchyroll.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

yashakenkyaku said

I don't know which lists these would make, but I have a couple I'd like to add. My favorite anime of all time is probably Yu Yu Hakusho. I didn't see Gunslinger Girl up there either, but that's an awesome one. I can't say whether or not I ever heard Nodame Cantabile getting a bad review. I thought Neon Genesis Evangelion and the first Full Metal Alchemist were a bit overrated though.

I will add it if others agree with your suggestion.Sorry but i didnt watch both of the anime stated despite i knew them.Too old to download.And for Gunslinger Girl,you meant the first or the second season?For Nodame Cantabile, it doesnt get the attention it deserves not a bad review,just low publicity and thats why its in the list.

Again,i already mention above,if you got any suggestion/argument or disagreement,please state with reasons.And a bit overrated is not enough if you see the title of this thread.Provide the facts than i will tell you why NGE and FMA are not in the list.

To Auri-chan,congratulations and definitely FMAB is the better one and by a mile by that.Hell,its the most perfect anime i ever watch.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

"I didn't like it" is a valid reason. Actually, due to the introspection illusion, if you ask people why they liked or disliked something, they're likely to be wrong. That's not to say you can't come up with reasons why something is good or bad, but opinions aren't inherently based on reason.

In other words, you don't need to provide "facts" or analysis of some kind to have a valid opinion.

Slayers is my favorite anime. :-) I've mostly seen 80s and 90s anime.

yashakenkyaku

Joined: Nov 24 2009

worldeditor11 said

And there you have it.
And who is the fan girl anyway.
And you just said you liked NGE
And first impression and watching experience is very important when doing a review.
And the list is not based solely only on the anime/pc game replay value(albeit a small part).

She was a childhood friend of mine. I've known her since I was about 6 or so.
That's not to say I didn't think it was overrated. There are a lot of other mech animes out there I haven't watched all the way through.
I'll keep this last part in mind.

I forgot to ask; how is Clannad overrated?

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

Seriously,did you even need to ask?I will answer it if you watch it.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

jit said

I'd say Clannad as the first series is overrated, but the emotional investment that carries from the first onto the second makes it rated as it should be. The first one is mediocre at best.

http://youtu.be/Gs6hmjeyQ8M
(I prefer the subbed version, but this was the only video I could find on youtube that was HD)
I would say this movie deserves more praise even though it's pretty recognized because the piano score is just absolutely stunning and so is Makoto Shinkai's art concepts. The story itself might not be for everyone and I can see why some people might not like it but I really enjoyed it. The title and the metaphors deliver a strong message to the climax at the end.

It's basically a splice of life type movie subdivided into 3 parts of the main character's life(when he's 12, then high school, then a working man). It's about 2 people who grow apart and try to find each other. It's only an hour long as well.

To Auri-chan,these are the reasons i am looking for.

To jit,whats the title of the movie.I will watch it as soon as possible as I am lacking anime and games to watch and play.

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

It's on the link, it's called 5 Centimeters Per Second.

If you're looking for more of a fantasy element then I would go "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time"
If you watched Spirited Away and liked it, I would suggest "Children Who Chase Lost Voices"
If you're looking for an action with video game elements, then I'd suggest "Summer Wars"

Speaking of video game elements and overrated, as much as I still do enjoy it, Sword Art Online is getting way too much hype(#1 manga sold in Japan right now and probably one of the top airing animes currently). The first arc of the story was cool, but it just lost it's flame after it.

Animes that I would recommend(I'll put a link to the episode with a synopsis):
Mirai Nikki If you like a weird twisted romance with action death and more death.
Btooom! Another battle royale type anime with a ranked player of a popular game is thrown into a real life version of it.
Zetsuen No Tempest A lot of Shakespeare elements, quotes from it, and each main character derives from a main character from a multitude of Shakespeare's plays into this fantasy action anime.

I'm really new to anime myself, I'm quite the late bloomer so I know more about recent anime than earlier ones besides DBZ. But if you're looking for new material, let me know what genre you're looking for.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

5 centimeters Per Second.YES
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time.DEFINITE YES
Children Who Chase Lost Voices.Leaning to YES
Summer Wars.NO
Sword Art Online.Just downloaded the first episode.
Mirai Nikki.Hell no.
Btooom.After it finished airing i might watch it.For your information,when i reviewing something,i always watch it as a complete series.
Zetsuen No Tempest.Same like Btooom.

For genre,i watch all genre of anime.Based on my list,i already watched over 500 anime(gonna reach the 600 mark) and knew 200 more.So i dont really care what genre it is as long it is good and it better be good.

Hey jit,you have the same impression like me when reviewing anime.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

Do you mean blood-bath type of horror anime or just plain horror anime or detective type of horror anime.Just to let you know,there isnt many good horror anime out there.

Rook

Location: US

Joined: Jun 21 2011

This got intense pretty quickly. My argument is simply that ratings mean less than nothing, ergo underrated or overrated mean less than nothing squared. I could list off a few good games or anime and a few bad games or anime, but what other people think doesn't really affect whether or not I'm interested.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

500 series? Holy crow.

Back of the napkin, I guess that's a comparable time investment to reading a book a week for 10 years--around 500 books. Not a big deal if you're old enough, but I kind of thought you were a kid. (No offense, worldeditor.)

RexLeRouge

IMPACTO

Joined: Aug 15 2008

lol you guys are ashaming me. There's only on worthy anime out there:

HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

tl;dr: deal with it.

Nodame Cantabile isn't underrated. Unless you compare it to K-On! or something, but compared to truly underrated/unknown anime such as Midori: Shoujo Tsubaki, it's a very famous anime with a fanbase that enjoyed all of it's seasons. So, yeah. And some of those 'overrated' aren't really overrated, Clannad has its reasons for being loved, it was KEY's best so far + good ost (although Tori no Uta stays as their best OP). Someone already argued about that now that I checked the thread so w/e.
Don't call things overrated/underrated so easily since you don't seem to know what underrated actually means. Like Rook, I simply check out what I want to. The only studio I tend to expect good things from on a more constant basis is Madhouse. Dem beasts. Makoto Shinkai and Ghibli as well for movies although they stick to their style + fitting osts (Tenmon & Joe Hisaishi).

worldeditor11 said

Do you mean blood-bath type of horror anime or just plain horror anime or detective type of horror anime.Just to let you know,there isnt many good horror anime out there.

Imo, it's best to stick to manga for horror or seinen. The anime adaptation of Gyo was so horrible, they shamed the mangaka's work imo. I mean, that shark with legs was crap compared to its manga counterpart. The best horror (and not psychological horror) was only in manga so far [recommend: Kazuo Umezu (he even appeared on Downtown's yearly batsu game show on multiple occasion, great guy), Junji Ito, Inio Asano (psychological seinen rather), Ichiha, etc too lazy] and usually if they got adapted as an anime, it ends up bad (Gantz/Narutaru, although the manga started being bad 4-5 years ago as well for the first title).

With that out of the way, people considering higu as 'horror' are funny. Best horror in anime is generally psychological horror ones (like Saya no Uta VN) which is simply my opinion, with titles that can go from realistic visually [Monster, 20th CB (manga), Jiraishin (manga)] to sci-fi/supernatural elements included [Mouryou no Hako, Akira, Petshop of Horrors (great OST as well, the manga is better but still worth a watch for dat ost), Narutaru (do NOT bother with the anime, read it instead, same for Bokurano by the same mangaka), Franken Fran (comedy-horror manga)] to things I wouldn't recommend watching on drugs as it goes deep down the rabbit hole when it comes to psyche/introspection (Aoi Bungaku Series, anime of 6 stories by various authors, the first 2 and last 2 being my favorites).
For psychology like Aoi Bungaku without the horror, there are titles like Trapeze or Paprika, comedy psychology that targets more common human considerations (more common phobias/conditions for the first, dreamspection with the latter aka Freud's fieldtrip day). Trapeze did take a lot of visual liberties, like Mononoke had, so it's in some-way underrated. Those are titles you should watch if you enjoy the genre already and love more artistic titles (Mononoke gets almost as trippy as Paprika at times).

Conclusion, 'horror' like Higu/EL (the reasons why 'gore' got associated with 'horror' for mainstream audiences), Ghost Hound (good first half, shit 2nd, especially the end), Shiki (good at first, end quite boring), Mnemosyne (yawn), Another (lol @ final destination twist), and the list goes on, weren't worth my time in the end as each ended up disappointing in the end with the direction taken even if they had great starts. Visually/Musically some of those were great ofc, but not good enough for the bad developments.

And I'll back away from what was brought up on NGE. It doesn't compare to the rebuild movies now (still have to see how 3.0 fares once it's available, tcheh @ waiting) besides that it mindraped my young 12 y.o self back when I first saw it and only had animes like Trigun/CB/Zoids/DBZ to compare it to.
If you want to read depressing seinen, check out Oyasumi punpun or other titles by that mangaka (Inio Asano which I mentioned earlier). Forgot how many times I wanted to die when I marathon'd it up to date 2 years ago |: I bet he'll suitside once he's done with this title, otherwise he's superhuman in Nietzsche's POV.

Giogiogio4 said

Hey Naruto is GREAT, wait I mean THE MANGA is great. [etc]
I would say that .Hack//sign was EXTREMELY underrated.

.hack wasn't underrated, it had it's small fame (due to the game) and although for the majority good enough, the ending was horrible. The problem was the fact it doesn't compare to the game series either. But I don't know if you're trolling D:

For the naruto part: http://updates.kotaku.com/post/34822928809/report-teen-commits-suicide-a...

Oh, I rattled a lot on seinen, but I watch all genres. Tend of marathon as well, the only anime I watch weekly is OP because this filler arc is related to the Z movie and FI is finally over (god damn that dragged on a lot). The anime pulled off some scenes better than the manga as well (world noble punch for example). Otherwise I'd have missed out on Jun, Hideyoshi, Mariya, etc. The horror just imagining that D:

Jacob31593

Location: Tampa, FL

Joined: Jan 04 2009

oh yeah i watched that dot hack show, pretty sure it was about all the characters sitting around in various environments talking about how deep and complicated the show was

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

After seeing but not reading a damn lot of text I'm not sure what this thread is about!

Most overrated .hack//-anything. watched Sign and Roots and both bored the shit out of me, dropped the first and don't even know how I managed to get through the 2nd but I remember it being a painful experience.
Death Note can also easily place #1 on this one. Incredibly awesome 9-12 Episodes but after that it goes downhill and keeps getting more and more boring. Prolly so popular because it's what most people start with when watching Anime, just like Naruto.

Most underrated might be Mushishi but I guess thats due to most people preferring shonen stuff thats easy to watch.
Also Rainbow: Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin really impressed me, was addicted after only 2 episodes. Sadly the Quality falls a bit off later but it's still one of my alltime favourites.

Most Overrated games: CoD fastfood and newer FF that keeps getting praised to high heavens by critics. Declining the fact that they present nothing but graphics.
Underrated: Shadow Hearts 2 - which could've been so much more but always feels a bit budget-restricted. Nevertheless a game I had a lot of fun with and enjoyed to the fullest.

If we're at it, I heard the gothic series isn't very popular outside of Europe, can anyone confirm this ? If so I might add at least 1 and 2 to the underrated list. Replayed them around 3-4 times and they are still not a tiny bit boring to me :)

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

karathrow said

holy fuck laon, great text wall of china.

I tried to hold back.

worldeditor11

Joined: Jul 28 2012

Hakoria said

tl;dr: deal with it.

Nodame Cantabile isn't underrated. Unless you compare it to K-On! or something, but compared to truly underrated/unknown anime such as Midori: Shoujo Tsubaki, it's a very famous anime with a fanbase that enjoyed all of it's seasons. So, yeah. And some of those 'overrated' aren't really overrated, Clannad has its reasons for being loved, it was KEY's best so far + good ost (although Tori no Uta stays as their best OP). Someone already argued about that now that I checked the thread so w/e.
Don't call things overrated/underrated so easily since you don't seem to know what underrated actually means. Like Rook, I simply check out what I want to. The only studio I tend to expect good things from on a more constant basis is Madhouse. Dem beasts. Makoto Shinkai and Ghibli as well for movies although they stick to their style + fitting osts (Tenmon & Joe Hisaishi).

Hakoria,do you actually even bothered to read the post that i made earlier since yashakenkyaku basically asked the same thing.

Thats why K-on its in the list but for Midori : Shoujo Tsubaki,i cant comment anything for i never watch the show in the first place.

Correction.Its not just overrated,its one of the most overrated anime and you said Clannad has its reason(s) to be loved and i know this is getting old already,whats the reason(s).Also you claim that Clannad is Studio KEY best production anime and that might be true IF you compare among other Studio KEY anime while neglecting other anime studios anime.

For overrated,

A term used to describe something that gets more hype and credit than it's actually worth.

Anything that's given TOO much hype. The type of thing that, if you see it again, you're liable to check your self into a mental institution.

Anything that is given too much credit and hype.

A word which recently has been used liberally as a way of discrediting something without having to give a proper justification, most often when someone finds they have a disliking for a popular phenomenom and is resentful of those who embrace it. Often used by anti-trendies.

Someone or something receives WAY too much praise and/or publicity.

An excuse that people make because they don't like something as much as someone else, and they hate how much other people like it.

1) Not as good as people think it is.
2) Not as good as it seems to be.

For underrated,

cooler than most people think.

Something or someone that deserves much more respect than people will allow.

Something or someone not well known by the mass public but of high quality.

A website, film, television show, book, etc that is so good that the public barely notices how good the product really is.

Something that is better than most people think it is.

means good but not publicized as much as other shit,opposite of overrated.

Person or Object that many people dislike but there is no reason to dislike it.

Person or Object that has High Quality at what it's doing but isnt known that well by the public.

And i leave you to judge whats the general meaning of overrated/underrated.

Like Rook,i also check something out when i want to but that is also due to the publicity it receives.For example,how do you know One Piece and Clannad in the first place.And here i wonder why nobody argue kanon is also in the list.

Studio favoritism equal to bias review.