absolutelastfinalremix of cosmo canyon has been updated in my file browser. (previous link [this one] still works) xD
after reading vulpes' article on super loud noises, I realized that was exactly what my mix sounded like. xD it's more dynamic now, and only fuzz-blasts your face in the last chorus. if you like rockin' your sub, it should be niice and smooth, but surprisingly powerful considering its higher-than-average register. :P
I'll have to double check, but I don't usually get rid of recording stuff. It may have to wait till tomorrow I'm on a 24 hour work shift, so unless I make it home sometime today during my break I can't say for sure.
Yep! MP3 adds quantization noise, which throws away information. Once it's thrown away, you can't get it back. All you can do is throw away more information.
When you first encode to MP3, you try to add as much of the noise below masking thresholds as possible. That means adding noise where it's physically impossible to hear it--you literally cannot hear most of the noise that the MP3 encoding process adds, at least at a reasonable bitrate. But the second time you encode to MP3, odds are that some of the masking thresholds have already been exceeded, so this time most of the noise you add will be audible, and the file will noticeably degrade.
If you re-encode a 192kbit/s MP3 to 320kbit/s, the audio will likely sound worse. But 320kbit/s is pretty good, so it might end up sounding about the same. The important thing is, it will never sound better.
so here's Aerith's theme. i thought, amongst the lot, there ought to be a good heartrending orchestral piece.
please enjoy!
hashel, you'll have to tell me where to send you the higher quality file properly.
Does someone has any experience at mastering an album or somthing ?
I can do it with Audacity but i'm affraid it will low the quality of the sound (import tracks to audacity => normalize => export as .WAV => WAV. to MP3 320kbs).
Bandcamp is the "place to be", but idk if it's possible to put free stuffs on it ?
Any ideas?
And i'll make a video trailer for the album with the links to the album, to gametabs and to the youtube channel. If you agree i'll send the video to you guys to put it on your private channels (if you are ok) to make this known :)
... in worst case we have to try and help each other^_^
Hash, can you give me any response to the stuff I tried with your songs? xD ... x___x
I have to know, if there went something wrong^____^
(arhg, I mean they were .mp3 when I imported them, so I did it the wrong way in this aspect... ;P)
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Everything that has to be mastered / maximized to it's max. fitting loudness-level, should be sent as the original raw .WAV, then there won’t be any losses (except overdoing the compression to death xD) until the .wav will be finally converted to 320kb/s .mp3 and/or FLAC.
(For the conversion to .mp3 I use a free program called “Audiograbber”)
(...if you import any mp3 for that, it will get worse, as Auri said^^)
Here we have to coordinate.
It shouldn’t make any sense to master something that has already been mastered^^
[For example: Otto/Link’s stuff is already mastered and until we cannot get in contact with her, we won’t be able to get the raw file]
A “perfect” result should be hard for beginners like us^^ All tracks are different and have been recorded with different equipment, settings, bitrates...
And even if it's all pushed up to the same, tracks may sound less loud, differ with each other, that's an individual impression...
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Don’t know if there’s a way to publish it for free... is someone there at bandcamp and can tell?
Progress is being made on my track. I've recorde 2 out of like... 9 guitar tracks that I need to do, plus a bass track. Damn, I better get going on those other tracks.
Progress is being made on my track. I've recorde 2 out of like... 9 guitar tracks that I need to do, plus a bass track. Damn, I better get going on those other tracks.
I just recorded the other 7 guitar tracks within a relatively short time span. Now all I need is bass and the accordion tracks that Careless will be recording.
I pretty much always wait until the last minute when things have a deadline for some reason. But once I got the drums done, the rest has been much easier.
The song is a secret for now, but I didn't see it on the list of tracks being covered, so we shouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes.
It's not a problem to cover the same song as someone else (we got 2 covers for some songs) ! I can't wait to hear it ^^ Im happy and Careless and you are making a song for this project :) As you are a "name" in this community (and DoD too :) it gives credit to this album thing =)
I have some ideas to make some seasonale albums and i hope people here would participate as they did with this on =)
Don't want to be a new DoD or OCR but making albums, or projects together give more life to a community.
I hope for the next album (the theme would be designed by a vote), if there is one, more people will join (Auriplane ? :D) and that we will do collabs ! The only collab for this one is DSheltonator (Czethros11) and i for the Sandy Badlands cover :(
... And now Careless-Juja ^_^
@Vulpes, by mastering, i mean i don't want people to put the volum up for a song and then the next one would be way too loud ^^
The song is a secret for now, but I didn't see it on the list of tracks being covered, so we shouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes.
Great, another new song :)
We're here all stepping on Nobuo's toes, so who cares? xD
Can't wait for your entry :D
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hashel said
@Vulpes, by mastering, i mean i don't want people to put the volum up for a song and then the next one would be way too loud ^^
Indeed, that's what I meant too^^
Jeah, no one wants to get blast away during the beginning of the next track xD ["Oh, that was nice > next song, oh, it's a bit silent *turninglouder* > next song - BOOM --->>> deaf" ] xD
But if something has already been mastered, it's normally turned up to that border near 0db.
Within the perception of the listener there will always be any slightly difference in loudness, depending on the songs itself. Even Link has this in her bandcamp-stuff from, 2011 :)
So the point is only to reduce the extremes between the songs :) A 100%-perfectly adaption won't be possible for amateurs like us^^
"The piece with the larger dynamic range seems quieter than the with a very low dynamic range of highly compressed"
That's why I asked about your BestofStuff... are the differences between the tracks very huge to you?^^
I found a program that claims to analyze the "felt loudness" and can adapt all to each other, but I tested it a moment ago and there are still loudness-jumps between the tracks... but they went all extremely more silent xD
OMG i like Birth Of God ! Bizzaro Sephiroth fight :D
I headbanged \o/
Great work from you and Careless ! Please, say thanks to him for me, hope seeing him one gametabs someday :)
You guys make many cool songs for DoD, i'm happy to got you in this !
Well gametabs upload seems to be broken at the moment so I'm uploading costa'del sol to soundcloud. Played a bit to fast at times but I'm pretty happy with the results.
love that loungey costa del sol!
and birth of a god is crazy good! O_o definitely not any of the tunes i had in mind when an accordion was mentioned, but it suits it well. xD
i still have so many to check. can't wait to see the complete package.
@vulpes thanks, man. i used a weird tone effect that's similar to wah but makes different vowel sounds at different positions. that description makes it sound really weird xD, basically it has some sweet spots for creating a stand-out tone without going too over the top. it helped prolong some of those super long notes, too haha. (though i wish the notes just before the end of the chorus stretched all the way through. should have tapped on the compressor. :/) your Jenova-Absolute is pretty damn epic! really dig that thiiick Mark of a Traitor, too. it sounds good all big and mean like that!
I saw earlier in the thread that somebody mentioned Temple of the Ancients. Well, Careless and I actually did cover that one a few years ago. The problem is that it's not strictly an FFVII cover, because it changes into the Phanton Forest from FFVI about 2/3rds of the way through (and I think the FFVI portion of our cover is better).
But anyway, if you guys never heard it, here it is:
I really like the ancients temple part ! The electric clean guitar makes me think of Metallica's "Call of the Ktulu"
With your approval i'll use it for the album !
I can make a fade out at 2.40 to keep only the ff7 part (but as the 2 songs fit really well i don't mind let that FF6 part)
Still waiting for an answer from Fernandesmetal about his Tifa's Theme cover !
Yeah, feel free to use it. I would say keep the FFVI part because it's the best part of the song. I just didn't know if it would be acceptable since it's not strictly an FFVII cover.
I'll see if I can come up with anything this month for DoD. Birth of a God would've been a good DoD song since it's just long enough to qualify, but this deadline was sooner than DoD's.
Hmm just did some quick
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Hmm just did some quick snooping and I actually can't find anything on Link since late sept. She's pretty much dropped off the face of the internet.
Some of the admins would be able to pull up her IP and see if she's been on the site since then, but at that point... it's just kinda creepy. lol
My, what an exciting IP
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008
My, what an exciting IP address you have, BigHeadClan! I see three dots, in all the right places. I see them with my eyes.
Auriplane!!
Hmmmm
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Really? I always thought it was kinda boring, think I'm going to set up a proxy just for fun.
errmmm
SixStringDealey
Joined: May 16 2013
absolutelastfinalremix of cosmo canyon has been updated in my file browser. (previous link [this one] still works) xD
after reading vulpes' article on super loud noises, I realized that was exactly what my mix sounded like. xD it's more dynamic now, and only fuzz-blasts your face in the last chorus. if you like rockin' your sub, it should be niice and smooth, but surprisingly powerful considering its higher-than-average register. :P
@BigHeadClan, do you still
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
@BigHeadClan, do you still have your Costa Del Sol tracks? ^^
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
I'll have to double check,
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
I'll have to double check, but I don't usually get rid of recording stuff. It may have to wait till tomorrow I'm on a 24 hour work shift, so unless I make it home sometime today during my break I can't say for sure.
So if I create a FFVII cover
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
So if I create a FFVII cover by November 30th I can be included in this? Let me know if that's correct so I can get to work (or not).
Re: So if I create a FFVII cover
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Of course you can !
I'd really love to have a song by TheGreatJuja :D
PS : i got "Alexander Points and Kicks Ass" on my Ipod with others DoD songs :) Great job y you and Careless :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
i remember saying i was going
tiger child
Joined: May 31 2012
i remember saying i was going to record Aerith's theme. i may still try to. 8 days you say?
this music is my greatest accomplishment
-brick road
Re: i remember saying i was going
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Yes 8 days ^___^
I'm working on the final solo of a FF6 song but after i'd have some time.
If some of you don't have time to record all the tracks in a song i can help :)
I have electric guitar, semi-acoustic guitar and bass guitar :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
It's unclear to me. Are you
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008
It's unclear to me. Are you asking someone to convert lower bitrate MP3s to 320kbit/s? If so, don't do that. It'll just decrease quality.
If you want 320kbit/s MP3s, make sure you encode them from the original WAV file. (Never convert an MP3 to WAV and then back to MP3.)
Auriplane!!
Okay, so it's better to let a
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Okay, so it's better to let a 192kbs at 192 than put it at 320 ?
I didn't knew that ^^
I wish all the tracks were in 320 but many files that i got from users were in 192 or 256, but they still sound good :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Most people probably have
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Most people probably have them recorded in a higher-bit rate format, it's just easier to upload as
Mp3's and such.
But yeah trying to convert from low -> high never works out very well for audio/video.
Yep! MP3 adds quantization
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008
Yep! MP3 adds quantization noise, which throws away information. Once it's thrown away, you can't get it back. All you can do is throw away more information.
When you first encode to MP3, you try to add as much of the noise below masking thresholds as possible. That means adding noise where it's physically impossible to hear it--you literally cannot hear most of the noise that the MP3 encoding process adds, at least at a reasonable bitrate. But the second time you encode to MP3, odds are that some of the masking thresholds have already been exceeded, so this time most of the noise you add will be audible, and the file will noticeably degrade.
If you re-encode a 192kbit/s MP3 to 320kbit/s, the audio will likely sound worse. But 320kbit/s is pretty good, so it might end up sounding about the same. The important thing is, it will never sound better.
Auriplane!!
@hashel
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
@hashel
Yep I still got all my tracks, I think I'm going to re-record my rhythm guitar and see if I can track in a solo if time provides.
But it's pretty close to finish so I should make the deadline.
Re: @hashel
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Nice :D Can't wait to hear it ^^
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
okay. did that.
tiger child
Joined: May 31 2012
so here's Aerith's theme. i thought, amongst the lot, there ought to be a good heartrending orchestral piece.
please enjoy!
hashel, you'll have to tell me where to send you the higher quality file properly.
but in the meantime.
https://soundcloud.com/starlightbuffalo/rrakdqitfagj
this music is my greatest accomplishment
-brick road
I'm crying :'(You can upload
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
I'm crying :'(
You can upload it on mediafire, or send it to [email protected] =)
Your work is amazing, it's really nice to have different styles. The quality of your song puts it in the highlights of this project ^^
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
3 days left for the last
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
3 days left for the last entries
Does someone has any experience at mastering an album or somthing ?
I can do it with Audacity but i'm affraid it will low the quality of the sound (import tracks to audacity => normalize => export as .WAV => WAV. to MP3 320kbs).
Bandcamp is the "place to be", but idk if it's possible to put free stuffs on it ?
Any ideas?
And i'll make a video trailer for the album with the links to the album, to gametabs and to the youtube channel. If you agree i'll send the video to you guys to put it on your private channels (if you are ok) to make this known :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Re: 3 days left for the last
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
... in worst case we have to try and help each other^_^
Hash, can you give me any response to the stuff I tried with your songs? xD ... x___x
I have to know, if there went something wrong^____^
(arhg, I mean they were .mp3 when I imported them, so I did it the wrong way in this aspect... ;P)
---
Everything that has to be mastered / maximized to it's max. fitting loudness-level, should be sent as the original raw .WAV, then there won’t be any losses (except overdoing the compression to death xD) until the .wav will be finally converted to 320kb/s .mp3 and/or FLAC.
(For the conversion to .mp3 I use a free program called “Audiograbber”)
(...if you import any mp3 for that, it will get worse, as Auri said^^)
Here we have to coordinate.
It shouldn’t make any sense to master something that has already been mastered^^
[For example: Otto/Link’s stuff is already mastered and until we cannot get in contact with her, we won’t be able to get the raw file]
A “perfect” result should be hard for beginners like us^^ All tracks are different and have been recorded with different equipment, settings, bitrates...
And even if it's all pushed up to the same, tracks may sound less loud, differ with each other, that's an individual impression...
---
Don’t know if there’s a way to publish it for free... is someone there at bandcamp and can tell?
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No problem to me with he promo-video^^
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
Pretty sure link has her
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Pretty sure link has her songs up on her blog or on bandcamp, don't know if there is a fee or not but I recall seeing .wav and Flac formats.
Ugh 3 days, this is gonna be close >< I can't get my rhythm guitar down for Costa Del Sol!
:O
SixStringDealey
Joined: May 16 2013
costa del sol is an awesome tune to cover. xD
awesome undersea theme btw, hashel. is there anything else i need to do with my track for you? :P
Progress is being made on my
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
Progress is being made on my track. I've recorde 2 out of like... 9 guitar tracks that I need to do, plus a bass track. Damn, I better get going on those other tracks.
Re: Progress is being made on my
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
Juja said
Wow, great, in that short time o__O :D
Which song are you doing now? xD
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
Re: Progress is being made on my
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
I just recorded the other 7 guitar tracks within a relatively short time span. Now all I need is bass and the accordion tracks that Careless will be recording.
I pretty much always wait until the last minute when things have a deadline for some reason. But once I got the drums done, the rest has been much easier.
The song is a secret for now, but I didn't see it on the list of tracks being covered, so we shouldn't be stepping on anyone's toes.
It's not a problem to cover
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
It's not a problem to cover the same song as someone else (we got 2 covers for some songs) ! I can't wait to hear it ^^ Im happy and Careless and you are making a song for this project :) As you are a "name" in this community (and DoD too :) it gives credit to this album thing =)
I have some ideas to make some seasonale albums and i hope people here would participate as they did with this on =)
Don't want to be a new DoD or OCR but making albums, or projects together give more life to a community.
I hope for the next album (the theme would be designed by a vote), if there is one, more people will join (Auriplane ? :D) and that we will do collabs ! The only collab for this one is DSheltonator (Czethros11) and i for the Sandy Badlands cover :(
... And now Careless-Juja ^_^
@Vulpes, by mastering, i mean i don't want people to put the volum up for a song and then the next one would be way too loud ^^
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Re: Progress is being made on my
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
Juja said
Great, another new song :)
We're here all stepping on Nobuo's toes, so who cares? xD
Can't wait for your entry :D
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hashel said
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
I listened to what you did on
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
I listened to what you did on my songs, and that was well equalized =)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Dead Line : 01/12/13 13h00
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Dead Line : 01/12/13 13h00 GTM +1
I won't take anything after so try to finish it ^___^
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Hurry :D
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Hurry :D
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Ugh really shouldn't have
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Ugh really shouldn't have gone drinking last night lol, working on it now.
Drinking is a good excuse, i
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Drinking is a good excuse, i forgive you :D
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
just a reminder
SixStringDealey
Joined: May 16 2013
@hashel
hope you caught my update a few posts back. it's much better than before in terms of volume. just making sure. xD
Re: just a reminder
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Got it ;) Thanks for sharing :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
so, finally sent my stuff to
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
so, finally sent my stuff to Hash and going to sleep now xD
Can't wait to see the final result of this whole project :)
@Six
Great:) Your Canyon has an awesome tone =^. .^=
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
Re: so, finally sent my stuff to
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Where? :O
I didn't get it xD
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
To the email you told a few
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
To the email you told a few posting before xP
I thought you received it, because your email answered to that... or is that an automatic funtion? xD
In addition I'll send it now in facebook too, to be sure xD
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
Oh i just don't check my
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Oh i just don't check my email every day XD
Thanks :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Careless and I finished our
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
Careless and I finished our song, or at least the first attempt at it. I really hope this link works:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7t9ldr43g9sv2q/BirthofaGod1stmix.mp3
The song is Birth of a God, which is used for a Jenova fight, but it's not the JENOVA song.
OMG i like Birth Of God !
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
OMG i like Birth Of God ! Bizzaro Sephiroth fight :D
I headbanged \o/
Great work from you and Careless ! Please, say thanks to him for me, hope seeing him one gametabs someday :)
You guys make many cool songs for DoD, i'm happy to got you in this !
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Juja, OMG, that's awesome! :D
Vulpes
Shadowfox
Location: Реклингхаузен, Germany
Joined: Aug 29 2012
Juja, OMG, that's awesome! :D
www.youtube.com/schattenvuchs
Just epic Juja
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Just epic Juja
Hmmmm
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Well gametabs upload seems to be broken at the moment so I'm uploading costa'del sol to soundcloud. Played a bit to fast at times but I'm pretty happy with the results.
Costa'Del Sol
Yhea groovy Costa :D Thanks !
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Yhea groovy Costa :D
Thanks ! I'll delete this topic later (when i'll be sure to have all the mp3 :p)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
so many cool tracks xD
SixStringDealey
Joined: May 16 2013
love that loungey costa del sol!
and birth of a god is crazy good! O_o definitely not any of the tunes i had in mind when an accordion was mentioned, but it suits it well. xD
i still have so many to check. can't wait to see the complete package.
@vulpes thanks, man. i used a weird tone effect that's similar to wah but makes different vowel sounds at different positions. that description makes it sound really weird xD, basically it has some sweet spots for creating a stand-out tone without going too over the top. it helped prolong some of those super long notes, too haha. (though i wish the notes just before the end of the chorus stretched all the way through. should have tapped on the compressor. :/) your Jenova-Absolute is pretty damn epic! really dig that thiiick Mark of a Traitor, too. it sounds good all big and mean like that!
ok. i'll stop spamming now. :D
Omg
BigHeadClan
Joined: Jan 20 2012
Just heard costa'del sol from ipod speakers and it was horrid, please tell me my timing wasen't that off. lol
Well, it's kinda off X) (If
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
Well, it's kinda off X) (If you make any improvement, SOON, i'll take it :)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
I saw earlier in the thread
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
I saw earlier in the thread that somebody mentioned Temple of the Ancients. Well, Careless and I actually did cover that one a few years ago. The problem is that it's not strictly an FFVII cover, because it changes into the Phanton Forest from FFVI about 2/3rds of the way through (and I think the FFVI portion of our cover is better).
But anyway, if you guys never heard it, here it is:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lhu6m4cv9cllv9/PhantomTemplegoodversion.mp3
I really like the ancients
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium)
Joined: Mar 04 2008
I really like the ancients temple part ! The electric clean guitar makes me think of Metallica's "Call of the Ktulu"
With your approval i'll use it for the album !
I can make a fade out at 2.40 to keep only the ff7 part (but as the 2 songs fit really well i don't mind let that FF6 part)
Still waiting for an answer from Fernandesmetal about his Tifa's Theme cover !
Anyway, it's free month, so see you at DoD ;-)
I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel
Re: I really like the ancients
Juja
Location: Utah
Joined: May 27 2007
Yeah, feel free to use it. I would say keep the FFVI part because it's the best part of the song. I just didn't know if it would be acceptable since it's not strictly an FFVII cover.
I'll see if I can come up with anything this month for DoD. Birth of a God would've been a good DoD song since it's just long enough to qualify, but this deadline was sooner than DoD's.