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Sword of Mana - Cactus House

iamHoustonian

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Here's a fun lil' April fools tab. Lil' Cactus!!
Cactus House
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J_4HNyhV14

This song has been pretty hard for me to figure out by ear, so I bet there are a few mistakes. hehe

Like with Guitar I Part II, it is so fast I think I may have gotten it wrong. Also there is another instrument that starts playing during Part II that was throwing me off.

It would be cool to know the notes of that extra instrument from Part II but I'm mainly concerned with if I got this one close haha

Thanks and Happy April Fool's day foolies =^.^=

*Lil' Bump before I'm out :-)

iamHoustonian

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*Lil' Bump before I'm out :-)

Songs in that game are always

auriplane

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Songs in that game are always hard to figure out, because they're a quarter step flat @_@;

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Auriplane!!

OH CRAP! No wonder I was

iamHoustonian

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OH CRAP! No wonder I was having trouble getting it right.
I just kept fiddling around until I got it sounding half decent Haha xD

Hmmmm... I've never even tried tuning down 1/4 step.
Do you think tuning down 1/4 step could make for a more pertinent "eisel" to paint this tune properly?

That's what I did when I

auriplane

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That's what I did when I tabbed Sword of Mana things :-D

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Auriplane!!

Seems more logical hehe. I'll

iamHoustonian

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Seems more logical hehe.
I'll mess around with it and revive my submission when I'm done exploring the unknown. Grazie :)

So I tune my guitar down 1/4

iamHoustonian

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So I tune my guitar down 1/4 step, play the exact same tab I wrote before and it actually sounds pretty close. I'm still having a little trouble with the Guitar I Part II, something just isn't right haha :D

Fooling around with this song on April fool's day has been funny indeed.

I am a self taught guitarists

iamHoustonian

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I am a self taught guitarist and I'm not extremely knowledgeable about the physics of guitar.

So, I've got a question about a "realization" I have made. hehe

Been fumbling around with the 1/4 step and standard tuning tonight, trying to feel out this tune.
In standard tuning I moved the notes from my tab a fret up and it sounds very similar to when I play the actual tab tuned down a 1/4 step. Still with me? hehe

And my question is:
The 1/4 step tuned tab, being a little flat, sounds similar but it isn't EXACTLY the same as if I played the tab in STANDARD tuning only moving the notes up a fret?

And I think the tab, when played tuned down 1/4 step, sounds more accurate. At least the first melody part (which is what I was experimenting with)

Just wondering if I'm on the right track or a bumbling idiot haha =^.^=

That's a tricky song. You got

hslesperance

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That's a tricky song. You got the last note of guitar 1 part 1 wrong and mixed up the melody and harmony a bit on part 2

e|----------------------10-------------------------
B|-13----------10h11-13----13----------------------
G|-------10----------------------10----------------
D|-------------------------------------13----------
A|-------------------------------------------------   x2
E|-------------------------------------------------
   1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  



Guitar I: Melody
Part II

e|-------------------------------------11-9--------
B|-13-11-10----------10----------------------13-11-
G|----------12-10-12----10-12----------------------
D|-------------------------------------------------
A|-------------------------------------------------
E|-------------------------------------------------
   1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  



Guitar II: Lead Fill 
Part I

e|-------------------------------------------------
B|-------------------------------------------------
G|-------------------------------------8-----------
D|-------------------------------------10----------
A|-------------------------------------------------   x2
E|-------------------------------------------------
   1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  



Guitar II: Lead Fill 
Part II

e|-------------------------------------------------
B|-------------------------------------------------
G|-------------------------------8--10-12----------
D|-------------------------------------------------
A|-------------------------------------------------
E|-------------------------------------------------
   1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  



Here's the bass, you can add the rhythm

G|-------------------------------------------------
D|-------------------------------------------------
A|---8---8---8---9--8---8---8---9--4---4---6---6---
E|-----8---8---8------8---8---8------4---4---6-----
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Ya, It is a little more

iamHoustonian

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Ya, It is a little more intricate than I thought.

So did you read my last post? My 3 stooges attempt at understanding tuning a 1/4 step down. haha
It's kind of a confusing inquiry.

Did you figure it out in standard tuning?

EDIT: I played it in both standard and 1/4 step down tuning and they both sound pretty good.
Might have to call this one an arrangement because it's so weird finding the perfect notes hahaha

I think I've finally slayed

iamHoustonian

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I think I've finally slayed this Mana Beast =^.^= hah

I'm going with Standard tuning. I also believe I figured out the little harmony part for Guitar II Part II that was giving me so much trouble.

Updated the tab at the top. Thanks

EDIT: Threw the Bass in too

Quarter step flat is standard

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Quarter step flat is standard tuning, just with A = 427 instead of A = 440.

You're missing a note in the melody, in this part:

e|-------------------------------------11-9--------
B|-13-11-10----------10----------11----------13-11-
G|----------12-10-12----10-12----------------------
D|-------------------------------------------------
A|-------------------------------------------------
E|-------------------------------------------------
   1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  1  +  2  +  3  +  4  +  

The last chord is wrong. Also, IMO the tab is a little confusing having headings before each part. You should cut down on the headings. Maybe write it as two parts, instead of dividing it into 8 pieces or whatever it is.

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Auriplane!!

Re: Quarter step flat is standard

iamHoustonian

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Hahaha sorry. I guess I had 50 headings so referencing a wrong part would be easier when submitting.

Good call :-)

EDIT: Cleaned it up

My tuner doesn't have an

iamHoustonian

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My tuner doesn't have an option to go 427Hz but I used this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFdpyhtEOzI
I saw on my tuner that the first tone was right between super low E and high D and the same thing with the other tones and corresponding strings.

I'm still kind of confused as to what 1/4 step tuning does exactly, so I just went with standard tuning for the sake of others not familiar with it as well.

Well, it being flat like that

auriplane

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Well, it being flat like that is the reason all of the notes sound wrong no matter what note you play on your guitar. Unless you retune.

Doesn't matter unless you're playing along with the original :-)

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Auriplane!!

Auri, when you said the last

hslesperance

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Auri, when you said the last chord was wrong did you mean the G8/D10? I think houstonian had G9/D11 before but I thought the 8/10 sounded better. Is neither of those correct?

And if you are still confused about 1/4 tuning, you should know that one fret is half a step. When people use half-step down tuning (EbAbDbGbBbeb) every string moves down a half step. If you moved down(or up) two frets it would be a full step. So 1/4 step isn't quite a fret but in between two frets. Sometimes you'll see a 1/4 bend so instead of bending up to the next fret(which would be a 1/2 step bend) you bend to the pitch between those two frets.

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When I said that it was

auriplane

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When I said that it was wrong, it said G9/D11.

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Auriplane!!

That kind of sheds a light on

iamHoustonian

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That kind of sheds a light on it HSL, thanks. I'm familiar with 1/2 step being 1 and D standard being 2 frets over to tune.
I know now how to tune down a quarter step, but I was just having trouble understanding how quarter step changed the guitar.
So basically, quarter step is a tweaked funky tuning that has a unique flatness to it, I'm guessing? haha

So do you think just tuning down a quarter step will make this tab sound right or would the notes/frets need to be altered as well?

EDIT: Thanks both of you for being so patient and chill. I want to get this one right on and also expand my knowledge of guitar. :-)

You don't have to change

hslesperance

Location: Walpole, MA

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You don't have to change anything. The tab can be played as standard tuning with those frets. You just have to tune your guitar down a bit if you are playing with the original. I made a note about the tuning on the tab

http://www.gametabs.net/sword-mana/cactus-house

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Cool man. That's what I was

iamHoustonian

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Cool man. That's what I was thinking :)