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don't worry about the cam

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

don't worry about the cam quality!

my cam is pretty shitty quality but it's still fun to see the person playing!

edit: also, i'm basically just waiting on an acoustic rhythm track before I can finalize a mix.

if anyone is interested in doing that, do it.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

i'll try the clean rhythm

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

i'll try the clean rhythm

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

awesome.drop just send the

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

awesome.
just send the file when you get it finished!

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

I FINISHED IT ACTUALLY

GÉRALD MCALLCAPS

TERRIBLE PLAYER

Location: FRENCH CANADIA

Joined: Apr 27 2011

CLEAN RYTHM IS DONE SENDING EMAIL

done, hope you'll like the

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

done, hope you'll like the tone and i hope there are not too much "pains" ^^

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

lowl

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

lowl

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

aha. i'm lookin' forward to

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

aha. i'm lookin' forward to the emails guys!

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

still waiting on that email

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

still waiting on that email mcallaps!

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

relax man, maybe we'll all

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

relax man, maybe we'll all have to re record some parts ^^

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

what I have right now sounds

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

what I have right now sounds really good!

I just thought he meant he was sending the email when he posted haha.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

FILE

GÉRALD MCALLCAPS

TERRIBLE PLAYER

Location: FRENCH CANADIA

Joined: Apr 27 2011

THE FILE WAS TOO LARGE FOR AN EMAIL SO I HAD TO UPLOAD IT ELSEWHERE. YOU CAN GRAB IT HERE .
ALSO, THE TRACK INCLUDES 4 BEATS OF SILENCE DIRECTLY AT THE BEGINNING, SO DON'T PANIC IF YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING

i go to sleep, see you

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

i go to sleep, see you tomorrow !

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

Here's a test

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

Here's a test run!

http://tindeck.com/listen/wdjx

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

sounds bad... =/ i'm not sure

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

sounds bad... =/ i'm not sure we are sync xD

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

can you send me plz ALL the

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

can you send me plz ALL the tracks, i'll try to mix !

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

If I have to be honest . . .

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

If I have to be honest . . . it dosn't sound that good. I don't want to sound like an asshole or what, but If this have to be the quality you was looking for, than my recording wasn't that bad, at least it had an original style, lol .w.
Or maybe you had used my recording and thats why it didn't sound that good. Haha JK.
It can be a nice work if you put a little more effort in editing.

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

clearly I'm not meant for

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

clearly I'm not meant for this kinda stuff. you guys enjoy.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

Oh no! Collabtastrophe!

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Oh no! Collabtastrophe!

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Auriplane!!

BTW, that wasn't an insult or

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

BTW, that wasn't an insult or anything. I haven't listened to any of this stuff yet. I was just commenting on the shocking turn of events.

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Auriplane!!

Heh, Hakoria's thing made me

Juja

Location: Utah

Joined: May 27 2007

Heh, Hakoria's thing made me laugh. Trying to sync up by the first bit of noise you see visually probably isn't the best way to go about it. If you guys are curious, here's what I do:

Record whatever part you're playing (it doesn't matter what part of the song it's at). When you have whatever you want, mix down the guitar file with whatever track everything else syncs to. To do that and only get guitar, I select the entire sync file to make sure that the guitar starts at the same point as that (my recordings will put like a second BEFORE it actually starts for some reason). So anyway, that makes sure the guitar will sync up with the backing/drum/whatever track. Then I make sure to mute everything but the guitar and then create a mixdown which will sync up but be only guitar (and as Auriplane said, you can cut it short if you don't need it to go all the way to the end of the song). I think Auriplane has a simpler way of doing it, but that's how I have to do it in Audition.

Another advantage to this is that you don't have to do it all in one take. Say you're playing the song pretty well, but then you botch a guitar part toward the end. Rather than record the entire thing over again, you can just record the end part again and cut out the part that you messed up. You can then select those 2 (or more) guitar tracks and make sure they sync up with the backing/drum/whatever track that's muted, and then you can mix it all together to make one guitar track that syncs with everything. Just make sure that the different guitar takes don't interfere with each other (get rid of any overlapping noise/messed up guitar parts).

I don't know if that will help anybody, but from what I was reading on here earlier, it seems like it could really help with you guys sending tracks to each other.

Stay cool it was a 1st try

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Stay cool it was a 1st try ^^
You were mad to think it would be that easy ^^

Ialicious, plz send me the drums, blass, clean lead, clean rhythm and dist rhythm track !

I'll fix which ones are good and which ones are not. Don't give up ^^

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

The Price Of Freedom Here is

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

The Price Of Freedom

Here is what i got when i add drums and bass from GP6

I deleted my solos and lead becausethey were out (wasn't really on the vibe yesterday ^^')
I think the rhythm clean, and the 3 violins parts (2 synth, 1guitar) are good

Opinions ? you can play over this to be synch ^^

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

It would sound pretty cool if

Joined: Dec 31 1969

It would sound pretty cool if you guys recorded 2 or 3 rhythm guitar tracks and panned them, just to beef that rhythm up a bit (: Just a suggestion though.

have to wait to know if they

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

have to wait to know if they wanna go ahead ^^

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

Ahh yes, I'd like to hear

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Ahh yes, I'd like to hear this when it's finished so I hope you guys don't give up!

wanna join ? :p or i'll end

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

wanna join ? :p
or i'll end it myself :x

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

No thanks... sorry Hash, I'm

Joined: Dec 31 1969

No thanks... sorry Hash, I'm working on another big project right now actually...

what kind of ?

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

what kind of ?

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

Something special (;

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Something special (;

Okay keep your secrets girl

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Okay keep your secrets girl ^^
waiting for your new videos !

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

Re: Something special (;

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

Link Strife07 said

Something special (;

Cosplay?!

^LoL

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

^LoL

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

so, I over reacted a little

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

so, I over reacted a little yesterday. It just bothers me a whole lot when criticism isn't constructive. It comes off as just being rude, imo.

Either way, here's the new track.

Only suggestions is for the clean rhythm. The playing is great, but the electric tone isn't doing it for me. It'd be perfect if it was played on an acoustic.

anyway, here's the new track.

http://tindeck.com/listen/dnpc

looking forward to the lead/solos hashel.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

Much better :D No one said

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Much better :D

No one said you did something wrong, we were just out of tempo
I'm not sure i'll have time today , lot sof work !

But plz can you send me all the tracks ? XD

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

I can if you want. all my

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

I can if you want.

all my parts are chopped up and you'll wanna hang yourself if you have to sync all this shit up haha

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

Just solo your cut-up track,

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Just solo your cut-up track, bounce, and make sure you bounce starting from the beginning of the song (like, 1 1 1 1 or whatever).

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Auriplane!!

Re: I can if you want.all my

Juja

Location: Utah

Joined: May 27 2007

I sort of tried to explain before how to simplify something like this. You could group all of those cut up tracks together and mix them down as one track that syncs up with the backing track. You just have to make sure there isn't any overlap. If there's overlap in the actual guitar playing, then just separate it into 2 tracks or something. Being able to reduce the number of tracks makes things a lot less messy when you're sending files to other people. For example: in a song that Careless and I did, I sent him 2 main electric guitar tracks, but he feels the need to edit everything for some reason. After editing them, he had cut parts of the tracks out and made them their own files, which was really unnecessary. This made me want to punch him in the balls. I only actually wound up with a couple of extra tracks as a result, but it was annoying since it made my mixing session more of a mess, and my computer also had trouble running all of those tracks at once.

Did this quick, is think it's

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Did this quick, is think it's better than my last recording (lead & solo) sync, just tell me the tracks you need :)
The Price Of Freedom

(i can record as much time as it needs to be good)

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

just the lead/solos. still

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

just the lead/solos.

still hoping someone steps up to the acoustic rhythm.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

also, are you going to take a

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

also, are you going to take a video of your playing or not? Cause I want to do a video.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

i'll do today evening (gtm

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

i'll do today evening (gtm +1^^)
i send you a mail

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

http://tindeck.com/listen/ekq

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

http://tindeck.com/listen/ekqi

thoughts?

still waiting to hear from my friend if she wants to do record the acoustic/acapella the violin track

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

after listening to it my only

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

after listening to it my only ideas are maybe re-record the 2nd solo cause the last note of it seems a little off?
and I can edit the lead track to get rid of the static sound when you're not playing.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

There's some strong

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

There's some strong (intermodulation?) distortion especially noticeable in the first thirty seconds or so, along with a couple popping sounds.

From 34 seconds until 1:45 or so, the song sounds a lot better. Around 1:54, the background noise becomes apparent, which is not flattering. The drums at 2:05 are a little weird, but they're okay, though IMO way too loud.

From 2:25 the song starts sounding better again. Around 2:44 the guitars aren't playing in time with one another, so it's a little confusing to listen to.

Some stuff sounds a little out of tune (the distorted guitar around 1:03 for example), but I can't tell if the instruments were recorded in tune or if it's the same weird thing affecting pitch through the whole song. Why is the pitch wobbly through the whole song? It's almost like you used a tape emulation plug-in set to way too much flutter/wow and saturation. That would explain the IMD in the beginning, I guess!

Can you tell me what you did to the audio? I'd like to know how close my guesses are, and if they're wrong, what you did to the audio to make it sound like that, since I'm learning how to do this stuff.

Overall pretty decent, though. Good dynamics, good contrast, good emotion. Rhythm is iffy at the end and pitch is imperfect throughout. Stereo field is very narrow. Mixed at -19dB RMS with peak at -3dB, so you've got plenty of headroom, which is good.

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Auriplane!!

A lot of it has to do with

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

A lot of it has to do with the clean rhythm track I think. I'm listening to it now with the clean rhythm muted and there's no popping noises or and it's much quieter. That second background noise is from the lead dist track which I can probably edit out a bit.

The loud drums at 2:05~ I need to fix but I'm not sure how to make a track drop volume and then pick back up in cubase.

the lead dist.melody and solos at 1:03 / 2:44 are hashels parts. I'll ask to re-record.

but yeah, those clean rhythm tracks are probably the biggest issue with that noise you're hearing.

I appreciate the input! This is the first track I'm putting effort into mixing wise so I know it's gonna take a little time.

Another big problem is I had to fuck around with the equalizers on hashel's tracks because they were super SUPER quiet even when I maxed them out.

I'm still waiting to hear from my friend. I think she could really add a unique experience to the cover.

It sucks that I don't have a decent mic for recording acoustic or I'd do it!

I'm gonna do some more editing and see what I can do.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

When you're mixing, rather

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

When you're mixing, rather than edit stuff, you can usually use track automation. Automation changes a setting (for example, the volume faders) automatically over time. So, for example, you could drop the fader down to negative infinity before the noise, bring it back up after. Or you could automate the volume fader on the drum overheads in that part.

You can generally do track automation with anything you can change while mixing, like panning, or basically any option in any plug-in.

Equalization (EQ) is using filters to change individual frequency bands on a track. If the track is too quiet, you don't touch EQ, you turn the track up! Are you referring to the volume faders as "equalizers"? You only do EQ if you think it sounds better with the EQ change (at the same volume).

In fact, if the EQ makes it louder, it'll trick your ear into thinking it's better, even if it's not. So you should always set the volume compensation to turn it back down, then toggle bypass so you can compare before and after and decide whether the EQ is actually helping. I've ruined a bunch of recordings with bad EQ, because I didn't do what I just described!

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Auriplane!!

Like I said I'm still pretty

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

Like I said I'm still pretty new to this stuff haha. I have no idea how to automate stuff. I'm pretty much just hitting buttons and seeing what happens.

The only reason I was messing with EQ was cause even at max volume the solo/leads were being cut out even after I lowered the volume on the other tracks to near nothing.

Well I dropped the clean rhythm and hashel's tracks and this is what came back.

Lemme know if there's any major problems I can fix on my end.

http://tindeck.com/listen/vweh

edit: dunno wtf happened to the bass timing after that quick edit. I'll have to fix that too.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"

I'm wondering why you don't

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

I'm wondering why you don't use the violin part i made ? If it's bad i can re record it too.
I guess i'll record the lead again, but at the end, you really shoud make the lead lower or it's difficult to hear the solo.

When i listen to the mix i updated at the end of page 3 the solos sound good to me, but i have a shitty ear :X

The song sounds a lot better, we surely will upload it for the week end :)

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

You should learn how to

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

You should learn how to automate. It's usually pretty easy, and it's one of the most useful things you can learn right now.

The distortion from the beginning is gone in the new track. Yay. Do you know what caused the distortion on that part? Can I see the original file for that part? I'm curious.

The distorted guitars still sound like they were recorded a bit out of tune :/

At 2:05, a bass part comes in about 4-5 seconds early. Sounds pretty weird.

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Auriplane!!

I don't like either violin

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

I don't like either violin part to be honest. they're so synthy! I just use that one as a place holder until we either find a violinist, get my friend to acapella it, or just use the synth.

They do sound good but you're mixing it with your tracks and not mine :P

http://tindeck.com/listen/mnlf

bass timing is fixed.

but yeah, use that track for recording the lead/solos.

edit: auri the popping noise was from the rythym clean track and the constant background fuzz was from the lead/solo tracks. also they probably are outta tune haha. imma rerecord them too.

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"Robots are machines that follow orders. If I don't follow orders, what does that make me?"