Collabs ?!

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

Enough guitarists here so I could help with piano/synth. Most collabs I've participated in rarely saw the day due to lack of drummers in general ;A;

Juja

Location: Utah

Joined: May 27 2007

Heh, I've basically come to rely on collaborating since I don't feel that I can produce decent drum tracks by myself (this is more of restraint of software and a crappy computer than not knowing how). I've been hoping to do some new and much improved recordings and actual video with my drummer friend in the near future (we submitted 2 videos a few years ago, but the quality was pretty bad).

So, yeah, collaborations are pretty cool. I would definitely recommend working on things with other people if possible. Collaborating with Auriplane definitely helped me improve; I am now somewhat less bad at music than I used to be.

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Hey i'm happy to see some motivation here ^^

If you'r okay i think we can start with something easy to fix how to work together.

Maybe "The Price Of Freedom" from FF7CC, it's an easy but good song !

There are : Drums (synth/prog), violin (synth), rhythm acoustic guitar, clean melody guitar, dist rhythm guitar, dist melody guitar, dist solo guitar, bass

If you want to work on this one (we can wait for others people) we can just make a collab cover, or make and arrangement, add a new solo etc...

Opinions ? :D

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

My Rival . . . If you need some sort of rhythm track I can try to record something.
In price of freedom I can make the clean guitar and/or the overdrive one that make poerchord .w.
Even if I'm a terrible lead guitarist I'm kinda ok for rhythm.

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Yap, I can use guitar rig. Is not in my style ( cuz I hate mixing videos ), but if you need just the track is ok.

GÉRALD MCALLCAPS

TERRIBLE PLAYER

Location: FRENCH CANADIA

Joined: Apr 27 2011

DIBS ON WHATEVER IS LEFT

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

I'd like to play at least one guitar part! haha.

I haven't tested my recording quality for my acoustic cause my mic is garbage, but if I have decent quality I'll do the clean lead. If not, sad face.

PS: I will still do just the bass, though.

edit: I learned every track in the GP tab, so I vote we use that. :P

and it would be super easy for timing and stuff if we all just use the 4 beat built in countdown in GP.

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

I can definitely do the clean melody on my electric but I don't know how it'll sound opposed to an acoustic. I might be able to tweak overloud to give it a more acoustic feel to it.

Either way, I'll record the bass today and if the electric sounds good that too.

Also, I'm up for mixing it all and doing the video editing, too.

Just email me the .mp3 and video files or wutev.

[email protected]

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

No worries man! I'm just always looking for stuff to do haha.

either way, I have the bass and I have the drums done on ez drummer. gonna try the clean melody some time tonight.

so we have

Clean rhythm - mcallaps
Clean melody - ianlicious
dst rhythm - pasto
dst melody/solo - hashel
violin - hashel
drums - ianlicious
bass - ianlicious

Make sure to send me an .mp3 of your instrument so I can mix it and what not.
Also, if you can, send video that I can sync up with the final mix.

once I get the clean rhythm I'll be able to start mixing everything to sync.

Also, feel free to stray from the song a little bit, but please try and keep the timing similar with the GP tab so it's easier for me to mix.

This is gonna be good methinks.

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Hashel, today I maked a fast recording, nothing serious btw, just something to make you hear if the sound that I can pull out from a pc recording please you.
Plz give me a mail address / msn so i can send that to ya.

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

yup wav are better ! you can pm me here too, but as it's Ianlicious who makes the mix it's better to send it to him

anyway : [email protected]

Thanks for proposing Juja ! i hope we'll make a guitar collab someday :)

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Ian, remember to upload a WAV when you're collabing :-)

Another thingy you can do is add a lead-in measure with four clicks, if you want, to make sure all the tracks are perfectly synced.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Yeah, I know :-) MP3 has tiny timing issues which make it a bad idea to play along with one for multitrack recording. WAV all the way!

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Well, I've made about a billion mistakes in recording stuff so far, so I'm just trying to pass on the fruits of my ignorance :-D

Ianlicious

Joined: Apr 05 2012

word word. just email them over when you're done!

yeah, i'm gonna record my actual lead today just wanted to see how it sounded!

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Pasto : You have to upload the whole song, even the parts where you don't play (+ the 4 beats at the beguining)
I think the quality is okay, expect those noises at the beguining and the end, can you add a noise gate ?
About the tone, maybe it would be better with a more "dry" dist setting.
About your playing, personnaly i'd play it more like this guy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtg3P_3Bjkc

Just personal taste again ^^

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

Wth are you two on with the .wav needing to be full length. Synchronizing a part isn't a hard task, even on audacity you can zoom in (for bigger precision) and properly place a shorter segment in the middle of a backing track/etc. Doesn't take more than some minutes even if you're slow.
Unless I misunderstood, but simply recording the segment he had to play suffices. If there's also the backing track in the recording, it would be problematic for volume mixing, but if it's a proper guitar-only recording then yeah there's np there.
Just my five cents because it's what most do I believe; at least I do 1:

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Synchronizing is a hard task, unless you only want it to be PRETTY CLOSE. Better to keep all tracks full length (from the start, anyway--they can end early). Judging tiny phase errors is pretty hard :/

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

auriplane said

Synchronizing is a hard task, unless you only want it to be PRETTY CLOSE. Better to keep all tracks full length (from the start, anyway--they can end early). Judging tiny phase errors is pretty hard :/

But having to do a re-take that includes a 2-3minutes (random numbers) wait before you get to play would be pretty stupid since you can start off-beat by accident or do a stupid mistake that you'd like to correct (you can always correct that with other sound layers, but then it could give continuity problems). For more precise synchronizing, you can zoom in and (at least on audacity) see when the sounds start/higher volume moments which is usually at the start of a beat/measure, if it's not the case you adapt to the correct situation. That just seems more practical especially long-term wise <:

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

Didn't get that from what they had said, but figured it seemed quite weird which is why I said I might be misunderstanding, but ty. It's also reassuring that it's the case here I suppose.

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Fixed the problem of recording lenght :3

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

OK I make this one ( Just an example )for showing a different tone and timing . . . Better ? .w.
Listen Me >O<"

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

New mail sended !

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

lol i sended the 2nd mail to myself xD

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

as my cam sux i'm not sure i'll make a video