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Dark Souls for PC?

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG.....except I'd rather just have From Software start working on the next game.

(For those not in the know, this is the message that shows when you die in the game, and the screenshot was discovered in a PC magazine)

That would be awesome, I

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

That would be awesome, I generally prefer to play games on the PC. Also, the controls will most likely be more intuitive. More importantly though - MODS.

Does someone else besides me

Ennea

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Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Does someone else besides me play this ? Because this game shot himself to my favourites in only a few hours! Currently stuck at the Anor Londo boss but I already heard it's one of the hardest - but then every boss is damn hard lol.

i just played it recently.

tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

i just played it recently. sucked up an unholy amount of time over the course of 7 days. there are a few bosses in anor londo, which one is giving you trouble? im at the end of demon's souls, currently.

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The bosses in the DLC portion

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

The bosses in the DLC portion of the game are some of the best in either Souls game. I like it and the nerfs they made to the Darkwood Grain Ring, elemental weapons, Hornet Ring, and greatsword swing recovery speed, but Dark's PvP is still so underwhelming compared to Demon's.

Basically, Dark PvP boils down to rapier/katana/spear users and constantly setting up backstabs instead of actually using your weapon's moveset. I'm done with the single-player and because the PvP sucks, I'm putting down Dark Souls for good.

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Hehe, I'm using a upgraded

Ennea

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Hehe, I'm using a upgraded Zweihander for pretty much everything, it kinda works so far but the only PvP I enountered was in the Darkroot Garden thing where the 4 guardians are.

I'm at the double boss with the hammer and the lightning bolts. If I defeat the small one I can't get close to the upgraded hammer guy anymore :P He will just jump up and knock me away instantly, maybe I'm just too slow dunno. Might try with a phantom later but the fight sure is fun :D

Re: Hehe, I'm using a upgraded

tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

ohhh ornstein and smough. such assholes. that was the first point in the game where i genuinely felt like i hit a wall. there's a spot outside with those two giant knights that you can summon solaire. though, he tends to only be useful for the first half of the fight - at least in my experience. i kept dragging him into battle but when i realized all the humanity i was wasting i finally just said fuck it and went it alone. it was awful, but that fight is entirely about patience. use the pilars and keep your distance. i found taking out the little one to be easier, because while the big guy is annoying when he absorbs the other's power, he is still slower. what is your zweihander upgraded to? im fairly certain i used a +10 lightning zweihander on them. the reach was better than my +5 black knight sword, and it would stun them. and dont get greedy with your attacks when its just the one guy left. be more prepared/willing to back off and regroup than to just keep hacking. i made that mistake plenty of times. and then...boom - giant lightning ass drop.

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Well the very first try with

Ennea

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Well the very first try with summoning a phantom was a success : d since I finally had the time to heal, evade AND attack. I could even take out Smough first to take Ornsteins soul in the end! Normally the reverse order is much easier since Ornstein always jumps you - but I couldnt handle the ass drop :< Always got my last bit of hp xD

On top, I thought I could just revert my Occult enchantment (dunno if it was occult, not playing in english and never heard the german word of it before lol) and upgrade it to normal +10 or something to make it divine, the I couldnt enchant it any further because I already gave the ember to another smith - you can do so much wrong in this game lol. Definitly needs a second playthrough when I know some more secrets and won't mess up everything lol.

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tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

yeah. its completely user-unfriendly. no forgiveness. auto saves after everything you do. killed that dude? fuck you. i mean, yes you can go all the way to the tower-top and pay your sins away. but still. the zweihander as a lightning sword is awesome - it's strength is great, but the electricity stunning enemies is super helpful. though i pretty much used the black knight sword +5 for general slaughter.

i was going to have a friend help me with that fight, but it wound up being a principle situation. where i had to do it on my own. i took out the fast guy first and then just took my time with the big guy. he was a pain, but eventually it worked out. i found great places for farming souls and all sorts of things if you want any suggestions. have you done the catacombs yet? or that underground lake?

i beat demon's souls last night for the first time.

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Ennea

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tiger child said

killed that dude? fuck you. i mean, yes you can go all the way to the tower-top and pay your sins away.

Haha, no, I cant. :D I was smart enough to make him my first victim, duh... And of course I had to attack the undead merchant in the sewers so that she now wants me to burn in hell and die a thousand death etc. instead of selling me something - I later was told she's one of the best merchants in the game, haha.

Can't play Demon Souls sadly, and I don't believe it will get a port as well :(

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tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

yeah, that merchant was fairly helpful. and the guy on the tower was key for me as i accidentally hit the giant blacksmith when being attacked in the room he's in.

demon's souls was fun, but dark souls basically improved upon it in every way.

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Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

tiger child said

demon's souls was fun, but dark souls basically improved upon it in every way.

I can't agree with this. I already spoke about PvP but there's some other stuff:

-Strength weapons are so terrible in Dark that there's not much point in using them. (And in fact, no one in PvP uses strength weapons seriously). For example, compare the Zweihander/Greatsword/Demon Great Machete moveset in Dark to the DBS/Great Sword moveset in Demon's. The utter slowness and lack of any decent attacks except for rolling attacks forced the PvP meta to revolve around rapiers/katanas/spears like I said. At least in Demon's, there was sort of a balance between strength and dexterity weapons.

-Poise was a good idea but implemented terribly. It serves to encourage players to be reckless/face-tank enemies, allows poise-backstabbing in PvP (basically, you wait until someone attacks, you walk through that attack, and then backstab. Then repeat.), and forces most small weapon users to adopt a hit and run playstyle. This is more preference, but I liked how sword&board/defensive AND aggressive/rushdown playstyles were possible in Demon's.

-The 2nd half of Dark Souls was rushed and incomplete- half finished content was found on the disc and the director of the game admitted this in interviews.

-More preference stuff: I liked the gloomier/depressing atmosphere of Demon's (remember Tower of Latria?) and the hub world style better. Backtracking wasn't an issue like it is in Dark.

Dark may have more variety of weapons/levels, but variety alone isn't a good indicator of whether a game is better-- virtually any sequel would be superior to the previous entries if that were true. Instead, I think basic mechanics are a fair measure of quality. Demon's wins out in that way for me.

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Re: Well the very first try with

tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

i think everything here falls under preference. which is totally alright. because what i said was completely just my opinion. everyone digs different things. i think dark souls was better in pretty much every aspect.

im not much into pvp stuff. so that really doesnt register for me. while in dark souls i used great swords, in demon's souls i got a bastard sword straight away and it was the only weapon i used the entire game.

the mechanics in dark souls improved everything to me. it felt more organic. and there wasnt a moment i felt demon's souls was gloomier. dark souls had a much more lost and isolated feeling. i like long walks in open worlds. it forces you to really take care with your decision making because there is true repercussion for the alternative. obviously demon's had a similar element, but it never seemed to challenge me - except for the fight with the false king. that was a showdown.

the notion of incomplete is strange here. there wasnt so much a "second half" in my mind, as i played dark souls. because you could go in any direction at any time - sometimes you'd obviously hit walls, but it wasnt linear - it all becomes a bit subjective and how you played the game. the hub was fine in demons souls, but it felt much more structured and linear. even if you could go do whtaever you wanted whenever you wanted to.

at any rate. i thoroughly enjoyed both and would recommend both to anyone who is willing to commit themselves to a game.

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By second half, I mean the

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

By second half, I mean the areas after you give the Lordvessel to Frampt/Kaathe. Lost Izalith in particular had shoddy design. The director himself was ashamed of putting in the boss of that area into release.

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Re: By second half, I mean the

tiger child

Joined: May 31 2012

i'll give you that one, definitely. i hate recycling bosses. and the asylum demon v.2...ugh.

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Anyway, I hope that From

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

Anyway, I hope that From takes their time on the next game and includes some elements/mechanics from Demon's Souls:

-The goddamn organized inventory of Stockpile Thomas. When I first saw the Bottomless Box, I was fucking appalled. I really had to scroll through ALL MY ITEMS just to find my binoculars?

I was also going to type out a list of PvP stuff, but that's not worth mentioning because no one here knows what DeS PvP was like.

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Hakoria

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Joined: Apr 03 2011

^A bit creepy like many other

Ranulf

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^A bit creepy like many other things in this game...

Even though the port was bad, I am still loving this game! :D ...Damn Bell Gargoyles.

Re: ^A bit creepy like many other

Ennea

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Ranulf said

^A bit creepy like many other things in this game...

Even though the port was bad, I am still loving this game! :D ...Damn Bell Gargoyles.

A phantom makes this fight ridiculously easy! And remember to cut off his tail first. :P

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Ranulf

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Yeah, I've already beaten them, they just gave me a hard time. And, I didn't use any summons if that's what you mean.

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Hakoria

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I've fallen in love with this place last week, why does it have barely anything except for the beautiful scenery and track. The unique enemy was sweet but strategy-wise identical to darkroot basin's.
Maybe some additional content patch (like Oolacile's) will provide something. Although lore-wise you can get imaginative on the meaning of the area + there's the end of sieg's mini-story, I still feel like it ended up rushed. Got this for PS3 so still waiting for the DLC (not gonna end my first playthrough 'till then, still got the bridge drake to hunt down and I'll start working on pvping as well). Would also kill Priscilla but her story's just depressing esp with the doll's description ;A;

Had a good ol' fml moment with the game today though. Ate up 30 humanities to give to Queelag's sister, around halfway through I put down my controller and she got 1hko'd by an r2 slash. Man that sucked.

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Ranulf

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Hakoria said

Had a good ol' fml moment with the game today though. Ate up 30 humanities to give to Queelag's sister, around halfway through I put down my controller and she got 1hko'd by an r2 slash. Man that sucked.

I'm sorry, that's just hilarious...and horrible. XD

So, I thought it was weird that it took me forever to beat the Bell Gargoyles, but I beat Ornstein and Smough, which everyone online said were extremely difficult, in one try. Still it was an awesome fight and my favorite, and their music is awesome too. I now like to run around in Pikachu's armor shooting thunderbolts at everything. I killed Sunbro today, and felt bad about it. :O But, at least, I got his sword!

Anyways...what are your favorite weapon(s)? Mine's the Longsword or the Sunlight Straight Sword. Heavy weapons are just too slow for me, and the Longsword has a really good moveset, I think.

Yeah, I was baffled then

Hakoria

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Yeah, I was baffled then laughed as well <:
Gratz on beating O&S on first attempt, I gave up after 6 solo attempts and managed on first try with Solaire. I had to kill him later on as well since he went hollow and I didn't know that you had to save him at the previous meeting. R.I.P, you were so helpful at times.

I liked curved swords so queelag's furysword +5, and a silv. knight str. sword +5 in case of fire enemies. Long/straight sword def has a good moveset, but the dash+slash or roll+slash moveset of queelag's furysword is hnnng. Other than that, light armor and dex-oriented (black bow of pharis scales damn well with dex at +14), Find it better to dodge everything than just tanking hits, although having such low poise does own my ass at times when I fail a parry. I plan on trying out scythes sometime as well as crossbows, the avelyn one looks beast and might be quite damaging if used properly I figure, too bad it doesn't scale with any stat 1:

Right now I'm using the Dark

Ennea

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Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Right now I'm using the Dark Knight halberd +10, ridiculous damage and perfect for narrow areas, decent in wide places like the DLC forest. Most of the time I used all the massive armor and weapon stuff like giant set +5 and was more of a rolling tank but recently I wear just as much clothing thats needed to instantly stand on your foot again after a dodgeroll. Found no other way to beat AotA - this guy is just too agile.

Problem is my pc is bugging with the fps atm so everytime I go near these fire areas (Izalith, Demon ruins) my game has like 2 fps, waiting for a patch to get that fixed :<

Yeah, I think dodge rolling

Ranulf

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Yeah, I think dodge rolling and keeping your distance is better as well, but that might just be because I don't really like to tank. I've got the Gargoyle Helm+5, Ornstein's armor(because I love the way it looks), the Wanderer's Gloves or Manchette(whatever)+9, and the Wanderer's Boots+9. I also have the Wolf Ring and Havel's Ring, so that way I have a lot of poise(like 67) and can still do the fast roll. I hate the other rolls. Walking around with armor on though is the most annoying fucking thing in this game. That sound, man, that cursed sound...

I actually liked the way the Dark Knight Halberd looked, but it was still too slow for me. :O I'm trying to think of who AotA is... Yeah, all the places like Blighttown, New Londo(a little), Lost Izalith, and something else probably have been annoying because of the fps drop. Lost Izalith was just boss after boss after boss. XD Why did they recycle the Asylum Demon three times though...?

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Ennea

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Ranulf said

I'm trying to think of who AotA is...

Artorias of the Abyss! It's a boss in the DLC and the guy who owns the ring you need to fight the 4 kings - one of the best bosses in the game imo.

atm I'm using the 20% ring that you can't take of anymore and one I need for the area, mostly the serpent ones :d

Dark Knight halberd is <3,

Hakoria

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Dark Knight halberd is <3, esp since you can get it straight off thanks to master key (without as well but there'd be the capra/depths/blighttown detour with obligatory boss fights), although you do need to level a bit to just 2-hand it. Makes the game way too easy though, more-so than when using drake sword. I thought the halberd was only up to +5, is it twinkling titanites even at +6 up to +10 or something else?
Demon firesage was a joke, don't know why he's there. Centipede is lol if you use Solaire as bait, and bed of chaos was |: the first times since I tackled it with no poise until I concluded I should just use heavy armor. Pretty nifty when going down the ramp and bed of chaos lights it up towards the end, dat fire surfing.

DS really needs more animations like these though imo, there's a lot of content that can be done humorously especially for the ones that have played it. Lautrec's laugh and Ornstein's trolling were great. Have only found another decent one so far 1:

Kind of disappointed that I ended up spoiling myself a bit of the DLC like the AotA&Manus fights and that there's a different Sif sequence if you keep him post-DLC progression wise. It's not the only thing to Oolacile though so I'm looking forward for the rest.

Parhelion said

Basically, Dark PvP boils down to rapier/katana/spear users and constantly setting up backstabs instead of actually using your weapon's moveset. I'm done with the single-player and because the PvP sucks, I'm putting down Dark Souls for good.

I've recently seen a tonberry pvp build and the idea was great, it was even quite well done and efficient at times (except against long rangers, the guy tried to stick to walking). You can see such good ideas at times, though quite rare.

I just beat the game... :O

Ranulf

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I just beat the game... :O And, I didn't get to see any of the DLC(That's one thing I both love and hate about this game. It doesn't tell you where anything is or what you're supposed to do.). Gwyn's music was awesome though. I also really like the art/environment of the Kiln of the First Flame. I just got the Black Knight Great Axe, and I think it's better than the halberd. :P Nothing's better than uppercutting giant enemies and making them fall on their asses. I'm not sure I'd be willing to play through the game again just to see the DLC, and that makes me sad.

Re: Dark Knight halberd is <3,

Parhelion

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Hakoria said

Parhelion said

Basically, Dark PvP boils down to rapier/katana/spear users and constantly setting up backstabs instead of actually using your weapon's moveset. I'm done with the single-player and because the PvP sucks, I'm putting down Dark Souls for good.

I've recently seen a tonberry pvp build and the idea was great, it was even quite well done and efficient at times (except against long rangers, the guy tried to stick to walking). You can see such good ideas at times, though quite rare.

Yeah, there's plenty of goofy and even hilarious stuff that can be done in PvP (See butt scratching PvP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWld56cZvY8), but I was talking about PvP played competitively and at a high level (and I don't mean Soul Level). Sorry if I sound like a try-hard, but straight up for-the-win dueling is how I enjoy fighting other players.

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Hey guys I just I thought I'd

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

Hey guys I just I thought I'd let you know there's some deal through Amazon where you can get dark souls for 20$ (it activates on steam though)

http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Souls-Prepare-Online-Game/dp/B00917DBUE?t=sli...

Dark Souls II will be

Ranulf

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Dark Souls II will be available for the PlayStation 3, PC, and the Xbox 360.

PC

WOO

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Ennea

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Ranulf said

Dark Souls II will be available for the PlayStation 3, PC, and the Xbox 360.

PC

WOO

SAUCE PLEASE

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Ranulf

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dark+Souls+II+will+be+available+for+the+PlayStation....
Not meaning this in a disrespectful way, it was just easier.

http://www.polygon.com/2012/1

Ennea

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http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/7/3742302/dark-souls-2-trailer

Yes......
YES!!!

My body is already

Hakoria

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My body is already ready.
More likely that DS2 will disappoint overall, esp if they make it more 'user-friendly' (easier for gamers with less times to actually get good w/ the game mechanics) like in those last months' interviews with the director. And I doubt they'll do something visually+musically better than Ash Lake.

Still interested in what time period this'll be taking place in-game.

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Ranulf

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Hakoria said

More likely that DS2 will disappoint overall

You're bringing us down, Hakoria. :( Nah, but I'm worried about that too.

I hadn't played demon souls

Hakoria

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I hadn't played demon souls so DaS was amazing for me, especially because I loved how practicing (parrying, analyzing enemy patterns, etc) was the only proper way to beat the game on your own w/o online players help (although I did look online to find out I could summon solaire before O&S, which was how I beat them the first time around >: And Bed of chaos, I had no fucking clue about what i was supposed to do then the first time.)

It'll be very demanding on the team to outdo themselves, so I wish them the best of luck and creativity <: And make it difficult as hell as well, but that should be an obvious expectation. Considering all of this, they'll need more devotion, than what it took us to beat it when new to the game, to make it as enjoyable as the first if not more, thus the pessimism.

Re: I hadn't played demon souls

Ranulf

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Hakoria said

I hadn't played demon souls so DaS was amazing for me

Same here.
I completely understand. I was just messing with you. :O

Don't see a single reason why

Ennea

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Don't see a single reason why they should stark making everything easy and friendly when the hard difficulty and the learning-by-doing style is what made them so popular ?

Because new director for the

Hakoria

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Because new director for the series, and they want to make it more 'accessible' to other kinds of players, not just devoted masochists. Luckily, the previous director of the Dark series will still be supervising this title, although I don't know what kind of level of input he can give.
I'll still end up getting it (probably) to judge it myself anyway so it's fine, they promise it'll be as agonizingly hard as well, so with the lack of info so far we can't really know how it'll turn out besides that it's taking place in the same world that Lordran (or w/e) is part of. Would be nice to see Ash Lake again because that place kind of shows 'other areas' we could never reach in DaS1.

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Mash

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don't you think it's a bit early to be sceptical? the new director is responsible for creating a whopping three incredible Monster Hunter games. besides, From Software knows where the Souls series' strength lies. i can positively say we won't be getting a minimap, quest mark indicator, QTEs or anything of the sort.

also, it taking place in Lordran again is pure speculation. the trailer hints at it, but it also hints at it being Not Lordran.

I would be surprised if it

Ennea

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I would be surprised if it would take place in Lordran again. There are still a ton of areas that we haven't seen anything of so far, would be kinda disappointing to see the same stuff again. But then again it's all speculation, I firmly believe in completely new countries/areas. I'm way more curious about the story and background and if it does connect to demon and dark souls at all.

I just hope From will let up

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

I just hope From will let up on their strength-weapon-hating in the next game.

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Mash

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http://imgur.com/a/q34ES

go wild, kids: Edge article on Dark Souls II

PS: it's not lordran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

Hakoria

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Bump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTkw3BZjZaA

Latest DaS2 trailer. Already cleared everything from my calendar for March besides attending one piano recital. And more hnnng inserted here, just all those boss designs, cray.

To many solid games coming

BigHeadClan

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To many solid games coming out in March, I'll try not to go hollow.

If the beta more-or-less

Parhelion

Joined: Mar 02 2009

If the beta more-or-less represents the core mechanics of the actual game, there are some new features I liked in it (faster unlocked movement, left-handed movesets, strong attacks while shieldpoking, etc.) and a whole bunch of things that made me say "yep, this is more of From Soft's wonderfully balanced work". I'm still optimistic though.

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I also wait Dark Souls II but

Doki2

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I also wait Dark Souls II but I saw that they keep bonfires and I don't like that. I think that make the game a lot more easier: Demon Souls was really hard, Dark Souls a little less.
It's still one the most difficult game I have ever played so I can't wait to have my butt kicked over and over again.

All the hype

Ranulf

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All the hype

Well it looks like they

BigHeadClan

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Well it looks like they buffed the AI a fair chunk and added some new mechanics, so it;s a wait and see situation. But March is going to be a busy month for gaming regardless so I may hold off on it to see if they announce a PC/PS4 port.

Rumors have also been floating around last few days that "From soft" is working on a new spin-off of Demon Souls, could just be additional content or maybe a direct sequel to Demon Souls but in either case the games not even out and their is hype for it. lol

Town theme in Dark Souls

Parhelion

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Town theme in Dark Souls 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKmIjUIv3b4

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