I noticed the chilly mountain
Lemoncobbler
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Location: SoCal Joined: Dec 22 2010 |
I noticed the chilly mountain from SM64 tab is gone. |
I thought it would have been
Colin_spade
Dami Joined: Feb 12 2009 |
I thought it would have been because he uploaded his own pdf file to download. :3 but yes. If its his wish to have the tabs down, lets respect. He put alot of work into them. :3 |
You guys can buy the tabs he
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008 |
You guys can buy the tabs he has for sale at DojinOngaku: http://www.dojinongaku.com/contents/group_profile.php?grid=1064
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To quote lolonjp,by
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
To quote lolonjp, |
Don't touch my Gold saucer
kanshiketsu89
Anime Clef Joined: Aug 13 2010 |
Don't touch my Gold saucer and Super Mario 3!!! :D Hehe, I don't really care. I can tab almost anything by now. I could be an ass and say that it's ok cuz "you don't deserve to play a piece if you can't even tab it yourself" but hey, music is all about having fun. You hear that lonlon?? Just fun! God dammit, not even music tabs get spared nowadays... |
Re: To quote lolonjp,by
greatest90Joined: Feb 05 2012 |
this doesn't even make sensse. how can paying him for music he didn't compose help save the music industry. he's like a fansubber charging for a fansubbed anime and we here are more fansubbers fansubbing his fansubs. it makes sense if he is asking for donation, but asking for payment is quite outrageous. |
To be honest in Japan giving
Bhael
Location: Newcastle, UK Joined: Feb 18 2010 |
To be honest in Japan giving away tabs of things is, according to lonlonjp, equivilant to giving away the sheet music; which would obviously be illegal. I wouldn't be surprised if every single Japanese music in existence had sheet music for sale, so you can see how giving away sheet music for even a game would be frivolous. As for his whole 'saving the music industry argument', I find it quite ridiculous. Illegal (?) distribution of music is just a natural course of capitalism, and to think you can stop it through some 1+1=2 argument and sense of moral justice is pretty silly. That being said, I doubt he himself believes half the things he says on this matter. It is, afterall, in his commercial and perhaps legal interest to encourage people to buy his tabs. If the website operates how I think it does, it's pretty clever. Put up your tabs and, for the purpose of transactions via the site, buy the rights to the music they come from with a % of profit made from it. Ingenious!
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Did anyone... have a backup
crimsondarkn
Location: Toronto, Canada Joined: Jul 24 2009 |
Did anyone... have a backup of all the lonlonjp tabs...?
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Re: Lonlonjp doesn't want his
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
auriplane said
are they all being taken down?
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Past tense
I remember Nate's epic chat
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
I remember Nate's epic chat with lonlonJP Nate:Join us lonlon! I'm sure it will be fun! many of our users are fans of yours! |
Re: I remember Nate's epic chat
Lemoncobbler
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Location: SoCal Joined: Dec 22 2010 |
lonlon said
ahahaha oh god why do I find this so funny....? |
it really is, that's why I
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
it really is, that's why I never forgot how he phrased it lol, NATE POST THE MESSAGE YOU GOT lawl. |
I actually stopped supporting
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
I actually stopped supporting him because of that. He didn't write the music, So even if he arranges it he himself does not own the rights to it. This is just like the Metalocolypse Bullshit. They got all the Tabs on the net taken down from Dethklok and then released tab books to sell. How the fuck is a tab book suppose to help me compared to GP, Cant fucking Hear pages.
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Re: I actually stopped supporting
greatest90Joined: Feb 05 2012 |
haha gio, anime fans think alike, check out my post above. |
Re: I actually stopped supporting
bastito
Joined: Feb 05 2012 |
Giogiogio4 said
x2 lonlonjp broke my heart. |
Re: I actually stopped supporting
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
greatest90 said
Lol, first thing that popped into my head. I swear if I still had all his tabs and the patience i would make a website and host them there just to piss him off. I need to start working on that flash logo again lol.
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Re: I actually stopped supporting
zen03y
CATFOOD Location: Lynn, MA Joined: Jun 20 2009 |
Giogiogio4 said
...What? Do you not have the music in your iPod? Lol I can understand to a degree though haha |
Re: I actually stopped supporting
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
zen03y said
I dont read the tabs, i just tend to look at the scale shapes on the Guitar pro and learn it by ear. It clicks much faster to me. Plus tab books I have to short through each guitar part then figure out what measure I want to learn and all that lame stuff.
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Re: I actually stopped supporting
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
Giogiogio4 said
yes. yes you do, geodude
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Wow, good for you Lonlonjp,
Choogly
Joined: Jul 01 2010 |
Wow, good for you Lonlonjp, you've successfully ensured that only a select few will be able to enjoy your arrangements. It's just god damn greedy, not to mention pointless. |
It's business.
kage25130
Joined: Aug 02 2011 |
It's business.
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Re: It's business.
Bhael
Location: Newcastle, UK Joined: Feb 18 2010 |
kage25130 said
Yes. Strange do you have that conversation saved on your computer? It sounds hilarious.
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I like the lonlonjp concept,
Hakoria
Laon King Location: gmt+1 Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
I like the lonlonjp concept, he plays the part of the necessary evil which strengthens the bonds between the users of this community. He's actually martyring himself for us, how sage and beautiful ;A; jk, you don't apply this logic to people who make money doing this. He does fit the necessary evil role though just like a good part of the media industry which messes up its priorities (putting money first, lulz classic). +1 for nate/lon convo. I don't remember if I saw it on IRC sometime last year. |
Because I haven't religiously
trunksoooJoined: Feb 06 2012 |
Because I haven't religiously bought every Final Fantasy game since I was 10 years old. The idea that these people need more of my money, when money from my generation put these people on the map, just so I can play an arrangement done by some amateur on the Youtube, is frankly appalling. Lonlonjp, what a disappointment! He and his crusade can go... well, you know. /unsubscribe. |
To the original poster, If
trunksoooJoined: Feb 06 2012 |
To the original poster, If you haven't already, go to The Wayback Machine, a website archive, and put in the old address of the megathread, which I believe is http://www.gametabs.net/forum/topic/6405, and there's an archive from 2010. Unfortunately the Kingdom Hearts, FFVII's Great Warrior, and most of the Zelda songs aren't there. But many are! |
Re: You guys can buy the tabs he
ahhnomoretabsJoined: Feb 05 2012 |
@auriplane, do you know of an english site where we can buy his tabs? I don't know japanese, or if there is a way to translate that site in English that would be great. |
There is no such site, and he
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
There is no such site, and he only accepts payments through japanese equivalents of our paypal, unless he changed that policy already. |
If you click クレジット, you can
auriplane
Joined: Sep 06 2008 |
If you click クレジット, you can use a credit card. He said he can't accept PayPal yet, I think. 1. Find the tab you want. I don't know what happens after that, because I'm not buying one. :-)
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i remember reading some time
exilehunterJoined: Nov 27 2009 |
i remember reading some time ago that his arrangements that are sold at dojinongaku pay proceeds to their original creators (mainly registered japanese ones). hence why some of his other works arent listed at the site (and should still be free to tab and distribute) due to inability to link proceeds to the appropriate owner. i could be wrong though :/ as for backups >.> i may have... |
I'm posting this for a new
natenmn
I haven't had a chance to trim my hedges recently. Thanks for visiting anyway... Location: United States Joined: Jul 17 2009 |
I'm posting this for a new page: Quote from myself
Oh yeah, and I was using one of my trash email accounts. If anyone got an email with a weird name attached to it, that's why. |
Oh yeah. i just remembered.
zen03y
CATFOOD Location: Lynn, MA Joined: Jun 20 2009 |
Oh yeah. i just remembered. There are SO many guitarists who do the exact same thing >_< EDIT: on youtube |
His arrangements became kinda
Ennea
humhum.. Location: Germany Joined: Apr 09 2010 |
His arrangements became kinda boring after this whole tabsale-stuff started. Nothing like Time's Scar or Blue Bird anymore :/ Saved all of the available tabs though :> However, japanese are kinda known for their strong wish to always stay on the save side. Lonlon became scared that he might do something unrightful (EVIL!). It's not for the fans of VGM and guitar anymore, it's for the companies wellfare - which is disappointing _____ +1 for Lonlon - Nate conversation! :D |
Re: If you click クレジット, you can
ahhnomoretabsJoined: Feb 05 2012 |
@auriplane, Thanks. You get an email after purchase with a link to PDF download, they sound really good |
Re: His arrangements became kinda
natenmn
I haven't had a chance to trim my hedges recently. Thanks for visiting anyway... Location: United States Joined: Jul 17 2009 |
Ennea said
The irony of this situation is that to stay on the legal side, lonlon now releases his tabs under JASRAC who, in the past, has been charged with violating anti-monopolization laws. They have also had the Japanese FTC on their asses for a while. In his attempt to do the right thing, he has associated himself with a shady organization that cares little of the creative freedom of the music industry or about the individuals comprising it. The only thing that JASRAC is interested in is turning a buck. |
Let's turn this into a lonlon
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
Let's turn this into a lonlon quote thread. lonlonjp:
Well actually. it is interesting to know one can profit like this. lol |
"It is illegal to upload
Ennea
humhum.. Location: Germany Joined: Apr 09 2010 |
"It is illegal to upload someone's music sheet without the original copyright holders consent, at least here in Japan. To share my tabs officially with many people, I am paying fee to original copyright holders. If we do not pay them, they cannot live on music. Please note that "my original songs" guitar tabs are all free because they are my own product and I am a sole copyright holder." I'm glad that Uematsu can enjoy a proper meal because of these purchases! _____ As a note, my serious opinion here: I can kinda understand what he wants to archieve. But his thoughts are just too focused on money - or rather he assumes his opinion = composers opinion. I can't imagine Mitsura, Shimomura, Soule and whatnot would get mad at people playing and enjoying their music - in fact I believe they would WANT the people to enjoy it to their fullest. Only the companies do want to make a coin (as what I said before), therefore he's just too narrow-minded. But thats nothing you all haven't already stated °_°" |
Re: Let's turn this into a lonlon
Giogiogio4
For all the dreamers: Our planet's dream is not over yet... Joined: Jun 10 2010 |
StrangeJam said
then maybe all those "Composers" should take the god damn time to make Guitar arrangement's for every god damn song they wrote 10+ years ago from every video game and include it into a GP format. Seriously is he Retarded? look at 911 Tabs, there's well over 500k tabs there, all fan made. if anything this actually Advertises the music since the creators have done NOTHING to keep the music alive. Sorry but 40 bucks for the Chrono Trigger OST is BS. Im not paying 40 bucks for a bunch of Midi files. The entire game cost less then that. And the CD is how old now? I have yet to see anything ever done new to it. lets not forget how Hard sheet music books are to get because square just decides to stop making a bunch of them years at a time, or Never bothers to Translate them. * The only ones killing the industry is Square and the gaming companies. Look how famous Chrono trigger/Cross , FFIX , FFXs, KH soundtracks are. Then look at the OST for FF13. it fucking Blows. It's already common knowledge that we love the Good music, so they up and out put crappy songs in the games? NIER was a need breath of fresh air after soo many years without good music.
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I support the lonlon quote
Bhael
Location: Newcastle, UK Joined: Feb 18 2010 |
I support the lonlon quote thread proposal! Nate do you have that conversation you had with lonlonjp stored anywhere per chance. It sounds amusing :D. Here's one of my favourites, in response to a plea for free tabs: "If I do it according to your advice, my account would be removed shortly. I do not think it is a more peace in all of us. I would like to be here with many friends. That's my intial answer to your request. I respect many great musicians. How they can live with free music?" What a guy. Apparently giving successful composers a bit more money is more important than spreading their music.
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You're welcome guys lol
SalemJeanette
Save Your Tears. Location: Popular Land. Joined: Jul 03 2009 |
You're welcome guys xxxxxx> lol salem MOD EDIT: This was a joke and it is NOT a real quote. See two posts down.
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Haha, Salem got trolled.
The above was a joke to scare
natenmn
I haven't had a chance to trim my hedges recently. Thanks for visiting anyway... Location: United States Joined: Jul 17 2009 |
The above was a joke to scare Salem into thinking that he was going to get banned lol. I told everyone who saw it that it was a joke shortly afterwards, but I guess they forgot since it was like 6 months ago. Lonlonjp was always very nice in all dealings he had with me. I edited my name out of Salem's post since it wasn't real and I don't want to be associated with that XD. |
but i already got banned
SalemJenet
Joined: Sep 22 2011 |
but i already got banned twice D: |
Lmao wow, He dosnt own any
IKilledThePromQueenJoined: Jan 20 2012 |
Lmao wow, He dosnt own any copywrite towards this music and all the tabs were removed. Good job people |
I really don't understand why
JoaosenpaiJoined: May 04 2010 |
I really don't understand why the tabs are being removed from the site. He used the work of other composers with copyrights to make it. As the tabbers based their tabs on his arrangements, he based his arrangements in music with copyrights, and he is even selling it, which is illegal. The only thing that was wrong in this site, was naming the tabs with his name. I think the tabs should be replaced and organized by game or anime like all the other tabs, and not in a Thread with his name. And by the way, I don't think he even arranged all those musics. I own an official Final Fantasy book of tabs, and most of the tabs there are exactly the same of his arrangements. For example, Melodies of Life is 100% the same. |
Re: I really don't understand why
ShikijoJoined: Feb 07 2012 |
"It is illegal to upload someone's music sheet without the original copyright holders consent, at least here in Japan. To share my tabs officially with many people, I am paying fee to original copyright holders. If we do not pay them, they cannot live on music. Please note that "my original songs" guitar tabs are all free because they are my own product and I am a sole copyright holder." -lonlonjp From what I could gather, lonlon actually pays fees for some of the arrangements he tabs out. If so, it is completely understandable as to why he would want the ones posted here to be removed. |
ahhnomoretabs
Joined: Feb 05 2012
Help! Where are the tabs?
Lonlon doesn't want tabs of his arrangements on GameTabs. He's selling them.
Okay, where do I buy them?
http://www.dojinongaku.com/contents/group_profile.php?grid=1064
But how do I buy them?? It's in Japanese!!
You need a credit card. Here's how you do it:
You'll get a link to a PDF to download. Have fun!
Did lonlonjp request that the tabs be taken down?
When lonlonjp first began selling his tabs, he requested that specific tabs be taken down and Gametabs complied. However, his wording was ambiguous concerning all the other tabs based on his arrangements. Recently, the situation was reevaluated and it was decided to remove all lonlonjp tabs.
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