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Would like to update two tabs

BacardiBreezer

My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up!

Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

First, I tried to make this one easier to play (haha), notes are the same, but I'd especially like Auri to take a look since she said she was working on this

Updated Fillmore

Old tab:

http://www.gametabs.net/actraiser/fillmore

Fillmore MP3

The other one is Epoch ~Wings That Cross Time~, I adjusted it for playability, and I also added a second guitar, if anyone wants to check that. You can remove my video example too since I'm playing it the old way.

Updated Wings That Cross Time

Old tab:

http://www.gametabs.net/chrono-trigger/epoch-wings-that-cross-time

MP3

My only gripe is the lack of

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

My only gripe is the lack of timing, and yeah I know I can listen to the recording but it's still nice to have :P

One time I accidentally got

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

One time I accidentally got lost in time and surfaced in the year 24XX

Sorry Kara I am not that

BacardiBreezer

My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up!

Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

Sorry Kara I am not that educated yet :P I've been playing Actraiser since it came out, so I definitely know the song. -_- But I try to separate the notes so it goes along with the song.

Re: Sorry Kara I am not that

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

BacardiBreezer said

Sorry Kara I am not that educated yet :P I've been playing Actraiser since it came out, so I definitely know the song. -_- But I try to separate the notes so it goes along with the song.

Heh, no worries beggars can't be choosers :) thanks for the great tab.

You're jumping around

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

You're jumping around octaves. Let me point out where, by comparison. In your original tab, on the first staff, you write:

e|--------------------------------------------------
B|-----------------------------13----------13-------
G|-----------------12----10-------------------------
D|-----10-13-12-------------10----10-13-10----10----
A|--10----------10----10----------------------------
E|--------------------------------------------------

These are all correct and in the original octave. In your edited version, you moved the first eight notes up an octave. They were correct before, and now they're not! Aside from that, the notes are all the same, except one, which I've bolded here. The bolded note was correct before, but now it's not:

e|--------11-10----15----13-------------------------
B|-----13----------------------13----12----13-------
G|--12----------12----12----------------------------
D|--------------------------10----10----10----10----
A|--------------------------------------------------
E|--------------------------------------------------

You can put a phrase in a different octave than the original, but you shouldn't change octaves in the middle of a phrase. That's because we care more about the intervals making up the phrase--the intervals and the rhythm together form a melody. When you move some of them into the wrong octave, it's no longer recognizably the same melody, even though they're the same notes.

Next, you write:

----------------
-------------15-
-------11-14----
-12-------------
----12----------
----------------

The last 3 notes were moved up an octave. You had this right in your original tab:

----------------
----------------
----------------
-12---------12--
----12-9-12-----
----------------

The new version doesn't sound like the same melody anymore, because you changed octaves halfway through.

On the second staff, you have:

e|--------------------------------------------13------------|
B|-----------^-12-13------^-------12-13-15-16----12-13-15---|
G|-----------|-------|----|-12-14---------------------------|
D|--12-13-15-|-------|-12-|---------------------------------|
A|-------------------v--------------------------------------|
E|----------------------------------------------------------|

Again, it sounds fine moved up an octave, if you move EVERYTHING up an octave. But when you move up an octave, then down, then up in the middle of a phrase, it makes the melody much less recognizable. It doesn't sound like the same song anymore.

e|--------10-13----10-13-13-16-15-13--|----------------------10---|
B|-----11-------11--------------------|--------------12--13-------|
G|--10--------------------------------|--12--10--12---------------|
D|------------------------------------|---^----------------------|
A|------------------------------------|---|-----------------------|
E|------------------------------------|--down an octave here..----|

e|--11--10------10--11------------------------------------|--------15-15~--|
B|----------13----------13--10------------------10--13~---|----13----------|
G|------------------------------11--------------^---------|----------------|
D|----------------------------------13--10--9---|---------|----------------|
A|----------------------------------------------back up an octave here...--|
E|--------------------------------------------------------|----------------|

And in this part:

e|--------11-15-13------------^-11------------^--13-10------^-10--|
B|-----13----------|----13----|----|----13----|--------|-12-|-----|
G|--12-------------|----------|----|----------|--------|----|-----|
D|-----------------v-10----10------v-10----10----------v----------|
A|----------------------------------------------------------------|
E|----------------------------------------------------------------| x3

BTW, this part doesn't repeat three times unchanged. The last four notes are different the second time around.

e|--------11-15-13------------^-11--------------------------|
B|-----13----------|----13----|----|----13----------13-12---|
G|--12-------------|----------|----|-------------10---------|
D|-----------------v-10----10------v-10----10-12------------|
A|----------------------------------------------------------|
E|----------------------------------------------------------|

The bold note is wrong. But you had the note right in your original tab.

So there's something wrong with the way you're transcribing. If I had to guess, I'd say you're writing down notes one at a time, instead of listening to the phrase and the intervals between the notes. Your tab should go up when the song goes up, and down when the song goes down--not just contain an A when the original contains an A.

Can you take another look at your tab?

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Auriplane!!

Updated http://www.gametabs.n

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Updated

http://www.gametabs.net/chrono-trigger/epoch-wings-that-cross-time

The first guitar is more playable now. I fixed one note--it was right in the original, but you wrote 10 instead of 11 when you moved it onto a different string. I didn't check the second guitar part.

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Auriplane!!

Well, I was trying to make it

BacardiBreezer

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Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

Well, I was trying to make it easier to play, but I guess maybe we should leave it like it was? What was your gripe about the original, aside from the three 15s in a row?

Yeah I like how the Epoch

BacardiBreezer

My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up!

Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

Yeah I like how the Epoch sounds that way! Ugh, sorry I must hit the wrong key sometimes X)

Well, you can't just change

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Well, you can't just change octaves for the notes based on what's easiest to play. They aren't the same notes. You can keep the notes the same, and move them to different strings, but that's not what you did here.

If you really want to play a part in a different octave than the original song, that's fine, but you shouldn't ever change octaves in the middle of a phrase.

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Auriplane!!

Yeah, I get what you're

BacardiBreezer

My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up!

Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

Yeah, I get what you're saying.