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How to make a good video . . . ?

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

OK . . . Its time to write this topic :
I am probably the one that put less effort in recording here, but I realize that I can do way better stuff ( I mean, I am still a n00b guitarist, but I can play most of the "pick" tabs that I see in recording ) ( Yeah Hashel - my riiiiival - I can do all your stuff - probably better - . . . lol just kidding - maybe - ) so well I will just ask help for make a good recording.
I mean : How ( and I ask this to everyone here ) did you do all that stuff ? How do you take the video, record, mix video, control the quality and put the track together ? How many time it takes ? Plz write here all the step you do everytime you make a recording ( the more you write the more you will help me ) even useless thing like - First I listen the song, than I start to learn it unplugged . . . - I will probably learn a lot by it.
I have 2 crappy guitars, 1 crappy ibanez amp, a working "Guitar Rig 4" and a Ibanez TS7 Pedal.

Thanks

Dude, there's like, a forum

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

Dude, there's like, a forum around here with loads of shit pertaining to that exact topic.

I know, I know, I know, I know. Don't fucking sweat it.

Step 1 : Learn the Song Step

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Step 1 : Learn the Song

Step 2 : Add some modification to make it sounds "your way" (optional)

Step 3 : Make a backing track with Guitar Pro (optional)

Step 4 : Record with a program (Audacity for exemple)

Step 5 : Do the mix (tracks volum and stereo effects)

Step 6 : Record you with your webcam playing in playback with your song (you can do it with one take with just the lead or many takes to record the lead, the rhythm, the harmony etc)

Step 7 : Go to Windows Movie Maker and synchronize !

The time it needs depend of the song you play...

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Re: Dude, there's like, a forum

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

surreal said

Dude, there's like, a forum around here with loads of shit pertaining to that exact topic.

LIES ! ! !

TY Hashel

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

Really? ok fine, 1. Learn and

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Really? ok fine,

1. Learn and practice the song
2. make a backing track, (mine usually just consist of drums, maybe some synth)
3. practice with the backing track
4. record over backing track (i use audacity)
5. mix appropriately
6. record video
7. use a program to edit the video
8. upload to youtube
9. post on gametabs

there you go, i just gave away all my secrets. i think you could have done this yourself though...

Gosh I have to learn to use

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Gosh I have to learn to use guitar pro . . . Is hard to program the drums ?
And I'm a n00b in editing video too . . . oh well I will try one day !
How much time you usually spend in all your step Link / Hash ?

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

i did 2 recordings today...

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

i did 2 recordings today... dont made video for the 2nd and i already had a tab for the 1st, but i also go walk 1h30, eat, play vidoe game, chat with my girlfriend etc... so if you ONLY do that you can make 2-3 recordings by day (but i think 2 it's the maximum without being tired or out of feeling)

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I do VGM covers and stuff at https://www.youtube.com/c/hashel

Re: Gosh I have to learn to use

CpxAzn

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Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Joined: Sep 21 2007

You should get proper audio recording equipment first.

(but i think it would be

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

(but i think it would be better, for me, to spend more time on my recordings)

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Re: Gosh I have to learn to use

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

CpxAzn said

You should get proper audio recording equipment first.

Nah, the first thing should be understanding the fundamentals of HOW to use the equipment. All the proper equipment he probably already has or can be retrieved for free.

Computer, guitar, cable, audacity, tuxguitar. That's what Link and hash uses I believe, or something close to that.

He even has Guitar Rig which is a very GOOD program if you know how to use it.

What is Guitar Rig ? :D

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

What is Guitar Rig ? :D

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Jit, hooking your guitar up

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Jit, hooking your guitar up directly to your computer isn't "proper equipment".

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Auriplane!!

Re: What is Guitar Rig ? :D

RexLeRouge

IMPACTO

Joined: Aug 15 2008

hashel said

What is Guitar Rig ? :D

Its a software that simulates amps, cabinets, pedals, mics, ... for your guitar/bass

Re: What is Guitar Rig ? :D

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Oh do you think i should take a look at this prog ?
(c'est quand même comique de parler anglais avec un autre francophone ^^)

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Rex is an Anglais-o-phone

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Rex is an Anglais-o-phone now. Right, Rex?

Everyone else is a Bananaphone.

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Auriplane!!

Re: Jit, hooking your guitar up

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

auriplane said

Jit, hooking your guitar up directly to your computer isn't "proper equipment".

You're right. The action of hooking it up is not proper equipment. But I don't get the point you're trying to make here? Sure you could use sound cards, interfaces, etc., but my point was that with knowledge of HOW to do it, one can make a decent recording with stuff everyone probably already has at their disposal. There really is no such thing of proper equipment just the same as there really isn't a proper way to record and mix.

Edit: hashel, if u look at my recordings, i make my own amp simulations with Guitar Rig.

My point is impedance

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

My point is impedance mismatch is uncontroversially bad for recording. There's no one "right way", but there's a lot of wrong ways, including hooking your guitar directly to your computer.

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Auriplane!!

Buy something like Toneport

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

Buy something like Toneport from Line 6 1:
Agreed with snail that hooking guitar directly to computer is baaad.

Re: What is Guitar Rig ? :D

RexLeRouge

IMPACTO

Joined: Aug 15 2008

hashel said

Oh do you think i should take a look at this prog ?
(c'est quand même comique de parler anglais avec un autre francophone ^^)

héhé, bah c'est toi qui vois. Si t'as pas un très bon ampli chez toi, ça peut être pas mal ouai. Le mieux c'est que tu "trouve un moyen de le tester", si tu vois ce que je veux dire...
Sinon, si tu sais utiliser des vst, ya des simulations similaires qui tournent sur le net. C'est ce que StrangeJam utilise par exemple.

Haha auri, my friends tell me I'm pretty Franc-o-phone too :)
Oh and catch me if you see me on msn, I have something to ask you.

Re: My point is impedance

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

auriplane said

My point is impedance mismatch is uncontroversially bad for recording. There's no one "right way", but there's a lot of wrong ways, including hooking your guitar directly to your computer.

Touché.

The other problem is that he

CpxAzn

Lurker

Location: Atlanta, Georgia

Joined: Sep 21 2007

The other problem is that he is recording with some kind of webcam/camera microphone.

He can hook up to line in and use Guitar Rig (which gives bad quality IMO), but that doesn't change the fact that he is still using his bad microphone to record.

The easiest way to record with video and good audio quality in my opinion is to have a webcam, usb interface, and a webcam software that will let you change audio inputs to the usb interface.

goddamn. http://www.gametabs.

StrangeJam

Da Manliness

Joined: Aug 23 2009

goddamn.

http://www.gametabs.net/article/quick-guide-for-home-recording-by-strang...

I didn't write that for shits and giggles.
Btw personally I think guitar rig produces really bad sounds, go with Podfarm lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DbI5UTkHfM&feature=relmfu
I've always been satsfied with the sounds I can get out of it.

It's particularly annoying

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

It's particularly annoying when people disregard a search function in a forum.

It reminds me too much on how laziness takes precedence over finding results independently, despite the more time it consumes waiting.

I am fucking disappoint.

But not surprised

Well i don't even use my amp

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Well i don't even use my amp XD i just use my Digitech RP350 (who have some amp and cabinet simulation) directly to the computer :$

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Re: It's particularly annoying

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

surreal said

It's particularly annoying when people disregard a search function in a forum.
It reminds me too much on how laziness takes precedence over finding results independently, despite the more time it consumes waiting.

If I wasn't lazy probably I allready had good recording . . . Than I didn't have to ask help here . . . Than . . . Time Paradox ! ! !

Btw really thanks all for the help. I try to record using guitar rig + audacity . . . but audacity can't recive the sound from guitar in the mic port + guitar rig .__.
And yup, btw guitar + guitar rig only have not great sound.
How much time is needed to make a drum base ?

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

Huuum, try and you will know

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Huuum, try and you will know !

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Drums usually take me a few

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Drums usually take me a few hours. I think I spent about 2-3 hours on this:

http://www.auriplane.net/guiledrums1.mp3

But it's not even that good. I donno. Drums are hard x-x I think I'm going to go load up some prog and try to re-create some good drum parts, to see what I can learn...

(Putting in time and effort doesn't guarantee you'll make something good. But not putting in any effort guarantees you won't, so get rid of that "lazy" excuse.)

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Auriplane!!

Re: It's particularly annoying

RexLeRouge

IMPACTO

Joined: Aug 15 2008

Pasto said

How much time

Does it even matter? Take your time and just do it

saying you're lazy is a

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

saying you're lazy is a terrible excuse.

Touchè

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Touchè

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

Bah oui justement arrête de

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Bah oui justement arrête de te toucher et achète du bon matos :D

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Noodle boy this thread is a

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

Noodle boy this thread is a waste of time.

It's not that you don't know what needs to be done, but simply that you choose not to do it.

Yes, doing a good recording can be work, but putting time on something makes the finished product more rewarding.

Re: How to make a good video . . . ?

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

Pasto said

Yeah Hashel - my riiiiival - I can do all your stuff - probably better - . . . lol just kidding - maybe

Just prove it so :D

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Re: Jit, hooking your guitar up

BacardiBreezer

My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up!

Location: NE Ohio

Joined: Aug 16 2010

auriplane said

Jit, hooking your guitar up directly to your computer isn't "proper equipment".

Not only that but getting a better quality guitar will help (you guys know I need this). I quit using my lightsnake cable because I got tired of trying to figure out how to get rid of the background hum without decaying it too much - not only that but my biggest issue was delay, I could not hear myself while recording because it was like a half second delay in sound and obviously you can't play to that. You have to buy other equipment for that. So until then I just play out loud from the amp and the feedback can't be heard due to the real song playing along with it.

OK . . . So I start doing a

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

OK . . . So I start doing a "serious recording" ( well I have to admit that I was just bitching a little . . . like "oh is so boring but I want to do that . . . but is so boring & I'm lazy and bla bla bla" ) gosh I used headphones too and start working on a backing track . . . somehow it start sound something so much better ( Better than Hashel off course :D ). Well here is da first probem : I "play" a little with "guitar rig" and some midi and I get really goooood sound . . . but again audacity stop to work. When I have plugged in just my guitar everything work fine, but with "guitar rig" on I can't record anything. Can someone help me with this ? why This happen ?
Guitar rig is the only way I have to get a good sound in now ( I really dont have money to spend in this days ) so I have to find a way to do a "real record" ( all inside pc ) while using that.

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

a simple multi-effect with

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

a simple multi-effect with usb output would cost you less than 100€ (And you can do some funny sounds with)

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Hem . . . My Rival I repeat :

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

Hem . . .
My Rival I repeat : I don't have money now . . .
And Btw with guitar rig i get a good sound. If I can record with that on It will be kinda everything ok !

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

download an other version of

hashel

Location: Liège (Belgium)

Joined: Mar 04 2008

download an other version of audacity... ?

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It would also help if your

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

It would also help if your video is not sideways, but I would settle for better audio XD

Try using Guitar Rig as a VST

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Try using Guitar Rig as a VST plugin from Audacity.

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Auriplane!!

How to do that snail girl ?

Pasto

Eat your Pasta ! ! !

Joined: Mar 25 2009

How to do that snail girl ?

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"Pasta Is Good For You" - The Pasta Guy

Don't ask me. I don't use

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Don't ask me. I don't use Audacity or Guitar Rig.

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Auriplane!!

http://audacity.sourceforge.n

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&i=vst-enabler
to add VST plug-ins to Audacity, but with it's limited capabilities, I'm almost certain GR won't work for it

If you don't have money now,

Hakoria

Laon King

Location: gmt+1

Joined: Apr 03 2011

If you don't have money now, save up and don't spend all that you have when going out or what else.

It's hard the first times, but it worked here and as a result I got my toneport in less than two months while I was still in high school. If you even have a job or get more money per month due to living away from your parents/at uni, then it'll go even faster.

Or dump your girlfriend, wallets love that <:

Re: http://audacity.sourceforge.n

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

jit said

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&i=vst-enabler
to add VST plug-ins to Audacity, but with it's limited capabilities, I'm almost certain GR won't work for it

Why are you certain of that?

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Auriplane!!

Re: Jit, hooking your guitar up

CpxAzn

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BacardiBreezer said

Not only that but getting a better quality guitar will help (you guys know I need this). I quit using my lightsnake cable because I got tired of trying to figure out how to get rid of the background hum without decaying it too much - not only that but my biggest issue was delay, I could not hear myself while recording because it was like a half second delay in sound and obviously you can't play to that. You have to buy other equipment for that. So until then I just play out loud from the amp and the feedback can't be heard due to the real song playing along with it.

Have you tried messing with the buffer options in asio4all?
What DAW are you using?

I've read threads about people fixing the latency problems with the lightsnake.

Re: http://audacity.sourceforge.n

CpxAzn

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Location: Atlanta, Georgia

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auriplane said

jit said

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&i=vst-enabler
to add VST plug-ins to Audacity, but with it's limited capabilities, I'm almost certain GR won't work for it

Why are you certain of that?

People put their laptops on couches and beds and they wonder why it shuts off on them.

On topic, I'm not sure if vsts work with audacity in real time.

auriplane said Why are you

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

auriplane said

Why are you certain of that?

I was just trying to help Pasto out and point him to the right direction. If you had the answer, then don't say "Don't ask me. I don't use it." It's fine to prove me wrong, but it's not cool when you only decide to help other people just to make my statement incorrect.

I didn't know how, but I was

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I didn't know how, but I was fairly sure you could do it, which is why I suggested it. I only took the time to look it up because you contradicted me, so I had to either leave your statement alone or provide support for what I said.

So, basically, you forced my hand. I had to look up what I said, and either say "Yup, you're right, I made a mistake", or "No, you can, and here is what I found". I don't see any legitimate complaint here.

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Auriplane!!

I giggled inside.

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

I giggled inside.

auriplane said I didn't know

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

auriplane said

I didn't know how, but I was fairly sure you could do it, which is why I suggested it. I only took the time to look it up because you contradicted me, so I had to either leave your statement alone or provide support for what I said.

So, basically, you forced my hand. I had to look up what I said, and either say "Yup, you're right, I made a mistake", or "No, you can, and here is what I found". I don't see any legitimate complaint here.

I didn't force you to do anything. But anyways, my main complaint is the way you reply which sounds condescending.

"No, you can, and here is what I found." [youtube link] sounds much better than "Why are you certain of that?" [youtube link]

You might not have meant to sound condescending, but it sure felt like it was.