I just want to say that
Ranulf
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I just want to say that everything they've done after FF10 sucks ass. |
They make amazing games like
SalemJeanette
Save Your Tears. Location: Popular Land. Joined: Jul 03 2009 |
They make amazing games like FF14 and FF13.
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Little J. |
Re: I just want to say that
Frogma
Joined: Jun 25 2008 |
Ranulf said
Pfft, why does everyone exclude FFX from the "suck ass" list? It clearly contained all the trademarks of the RPG's everyone hates (i.e. cliche characters, wussy main character, woeful dialogue, terrible voice acting, unbelievably linear game, no world map, weak storyline, villain that you don't have anything against, mundane kill-all-the-monsters side-quests, terrible mini-games). It also paved the way for these new-agey final fantasy's which in my opinion have a lot more going for them than FFX.
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Re: I just want to say that
Ranulf
I will not join your gametabs. Joined: Oct 15 2009 |
I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death you're right to say it. Besides I'd rather play Pokemon, since it's such a ripoff of FF it's not even funny. XD |
hey, hey, hey Square still
SalemJeanette
Save Your Tears. Location: Popular Land. Joined: Jul 03 2009 |
hey, hey, hey Square still releases good games,
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Re: I just want to say that
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
in my opinion, people exclude it because it was a new, revolutionary branch in FF. it was the first game without pre-rendered maps (which is a big loss in my opinion-though it is fairly bittersweet i guess; the environments in X+ were very lush), it was the first in the series to feature voice acting, a lot of the musical scores in it were fantastic (yuna's theme, to zanarkand, mt. gagazet).....and....blitzball. a lot of people love blitzball, me included. actually, I'm willing to say that exempting IX's chocobo sidequest, it is the most worthwhile side-event in the entire series. (VI is my favorite btw)
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Re: Holy crow, Square is making
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
its weird man, it really is. its interesting for like, the first wave of enemies, after that its just....what the hell is enix thinkin? having said that, they also have this new sidescroller action game called Moondiver, and its actually quite epic, if ludicrously simple. reminded me of playin megaman x for the GBA (thats a good thing, btw, IMO). i recommend checking it out; its a random endeavour that actually turned out to be decent. the demo is at the playstation store.
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Re: hey, hey, hey Square still
Ranulf
I will not join your gametabs. Joined: Oct 15 2009 |
:o |
Japan doesn't give a shit
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
Japan doesn't give a shit about user feedback. They pander to a specific never changing market that will gobble up whatever shit is shoveled to them. They have no ability to adapt to changing markets or cultivate new ideas (or at least GOOD ideas). Every FF since 10 and including 10 has been an on rails piece of shit. Oh and Dragon Quest VIII was shit too despite how pretty it was. Western devs are far more concerned with user feedback, forums, QA, testing, etc. I honestly would rather get a vicks vaporub enema than play a modern JRPG. |
FFX was a shit sandwich
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
The sphere grid was such bullshit too. It gives you the illusion that you can customize your characters but really you are started at predetermined points, and caged in a linear path by sphere locks. By the time you can really move characters around and get them into other places you're pretty much at the end of the game so who cares? Don't get me started on the side quests/legendary weapon garbage. Dodging lightning 200 times? Really? This is a game? How is that fun? It isn't. It's a chore. It's repetitive and it's uninspired. I will say adding voice acting is a cool advancement but it really didnt take off with me until games started to add dual audio functions so I dont have to listen to the god awful english dubbing. The removal of pre rendered screens is sort of a toss up to me. Yes FFX was very pretty but I really did love some of the old artwork and since you had no control over the camera you couldn't really even look at anything that closely. Also the enemy design was really constraining too. Yeah you can pull your team out and replace people in the heat of a fight but who cares when enemies clearly require X character to kill them. (i.e. flying enemies with wakka, flans with lulu, etc) EDIT: Oh and the monster catching was the most tedious bullshit ever. I tried to revisit the game recently to see the content I never finished (side quests and such) and I wanted to kill myself. Blitzball was shit too. The only time it ever matters is the first time you play it, and winning it is basically luck. |
Re: FFX was a shit sandwich
Ranulf
I will not join your gametabs. Joined: Oct 15 2009 |
karathrow said
No. I have disagree with you here, because if you get the Jecht Shot and actually figure out how to play well, then it's easy. I think I won almost every blitzball game I played, and for me Wakka's World Champion is the easiest to get. I thought blitzball was kinda fun. And while I wasn't really a fan of the grid/sphere system, it wasn't that bad. I didn't really have a problem with the enemies, but everything else I agree with. |
FFX is a not that bad game,
hashel
Location: Liège (Belgium) Joined: Mar 04 2008 |
FFX is a not that bad game, FFXII is a good game, FFXIII is an heresy =) yhea i'm not objective =D
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Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
Fallout 3 bitches. nuff' said. |
You mean Oblivion...right?
Ranulf
I will not join your gametabs. Joined: Oct 15 2009 |
You mean Oblivion...right? |
Re: Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
definately, fallout games are epic, thought ive only played 3 and new vegas. the dumb thing about it is when you take the quest and strat going through the project impurity, thats it, youre done, no more fun. im hoping it wont be like that with new vegas
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Re: FFX is a not that bad game,
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
agreed, 100%, with all that you just said.
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Re: Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
Arteriorrhexis
Bigot Location: Georgia... America. Joined: Oct 13 2008 |
wayfaerer said
Get Broken Steel lol |
Re: Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
wayfaerer said
This is like saying if you spend your life waiting for it to end, it's not very fun. You're not supposed to just fly though the main game. You're supposed to go check out the world and do whatever you want. It amazes me how unimaginative peoplere are. How much it seems like people have these blinders on or tunnel vision that they have to beat the main quest and nothing else matters. There's so much gameplay to be had, it's pretty silly to intentionally avoid it then complain about the lack of gameplay. |
But what about people who are
GeistJoined: Jan 04 2011 |
But what about people who are trying to do as much as they can, but suddenly realize they completed the main quest...by accident. It isn't their fault, they were just playing the game. That's what happened to me, I thought there would be more to the story than that...well, there is but only if you decide to get the extra content. It still is one hell of a game,though, and one of my favorite too. |
FFX-2 the best
SalemJeanette
Save Your Tears. Location: Popular Land. Joined: Jul 03 2009 |
FFX-2 the best
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Ain't that the one where the
GeistJoined: Jan 04 2011 |
Ain't that the one where the chicks from X are neophyte strippers...with guns? |
Yes, it's great
SalemJeanette
Save Your Tears. Location: Popular Land. Joined: Jul 03 2009 |
Yes, it's great
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GrimacingGrimoire
Joined: Nov 27 2010 |
That picture makes me feel dirty... |
Yeah, maybe I'll try it
GeistJoined: Jan 04 2011 |
Yeah, maybe I'll try it out...What's the plot like? edit: nevermind, i'll just play it. |
Re: Square-Enix
BacardiBreezer
My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up! Location: NE Ohio Joined: Aug 16 2010 |
I gave up on Square Enix in high school, when I was playing FFX. It was a decent game, but I just felt like it was the beginning of the end. I grew up in the early-mid 90s so I am one of those people who thinks the Super Nintendo was the golden age of video games. It is really hard to argue that. It's funny because I owned and played all of the classics by Squaresoft and Enix, and it really hurts to know that when they merged it all went to hell. Should have been the greatest thing...but nah, they suck. I won't even give the new Final Fantasys a chance. I'll admit Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 were pretty damn awesome, me being a Disney and FF fan, but that's about all the company is good for. |
Square-Enix Kill F.F. thats
Pasto
Eat your Pasta ! ! ! Joined: Mar 25 2009 |
Square-Enix Kill F.F. thats it.
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Re: Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
dude, i had the MIRV, as well as every other unique weapon, aside from 1 or 2, and i got it in my head to just say fuck it and beat the main quest, then finish everything else afterward. i didnt realize i wouldnt be able to do so, thats what im saying, and it pissed me off. all that work for nothing you know?
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Re: Fallout 3 bitches. nuff'
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
im as poor as a church mouse haha. i plan to get the DLC's eventually. well, maybe not for FO3, my buddy has it for a while, but ill probably get em for new vegas
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Re: Square-Enix
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
youre absolutely right! kingdom hearts was an amazing merger and feat in video gaming, and nothing will convince me toherwise that it was the most worthwhile thing to come out of the merging of square and enix. well,t hen again, FFVII: crisis core for the PSP was a really good game to, had an interesting story to tell. very emotional, and the ending was superb.
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Re: Square-Enix Kill F.F. thats
BacardiBreezer
My life is a chip in your pile. Ante up! Location: NE Ohio Joined: Aug 16 2010 |
Pasto said
What bothered me about the remakes were how much easier some of them got (I mean the FF1 for GBA is just disgusting, that game should never be that easy!), and they ALWAYS had to change something! Just fucking port it... |
Re: Yeah, maybe I'll try it
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
i wouldnt say nevermind exactly, cause for me, it took a while to get into, vause it felt random and quirky, but once you really get the plot rolling, it gets really good.
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Re: Yeah, maybe I'll try it
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
i wouldnt say nevermind exactly, cause for me, it took a while to get into, vause it felt random and quirky, but once you really get the plot rolling, it gets really good.
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well uhh...time to bump this
Shrurikam
Joined: Dec 01 2010 |
well uhh...time to bump this up again with my 2 cents :D |
Re: well uhh...time to bump this
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
the only thing i disagree with in what you said is that the spere grid was bullshit. i really liked the sphere grid, it felt fresh to me, and it got rid of the leveling system that became a too popular staple for the FF series, and so many games ripped off the levleing system from FF (as well as the item system), that i guess they felt it was time to change the formula a little. and i perosnally think they did a good job. all that being said, the crystarium system in FFXIII was a fucking joke, it was boring and lacked any substance, being unfortunately necessary. the art is gorgeous in all games square, the storylines are always filled with grandeur and inspiring moments, and each new game brought something new and unexpected--if not always appreciated to the table of RPG's. THATS what makes square a mega corporation wihtin the RPG and video-gaming industry. and and shruikam? you forgot abot the musical scores. nothing compares to squares music, whether uematsu or mitsuda, or those other guys, its always very enjoyable and reminiscent, or fresh and relevant.
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lol i thought it was lame coz
Shrurikam
Joined: Dec 01 2010 |
lol |
Re: loli thought it was lame coz
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
XIII is a decent game, (like i commonly state--its so pretty it hurts), but thats it. its pretty. gorgeous graphics, beautiful environments. but its all so linear! youre walking down a straight hallway, collecting random chests with something useless inside, you fight a boss at the end, repeat, for about the first 11 chapters or so. then, all that linear-ness done, you are crash landed on the lower-world of gran pulse, and its so huge and staggeringly open, its daunting, and i can all but promise you will be taken aback by the sheer size of first stepping onto the plains of gran pulse. my only recommendation for this is the graphics; its the best square has to offer, in terms of both vividity and magnitude. also, if youve become a fan of the series late in the game, you will most certainly enjoy it. great for beginners, BAD for fans.
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ahh...well i dont actually
Shrurikam
Joined: Dec 01 2010 |
ahh...well |
Re: ahh...welli dont actually
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
dont worry about it, you aint missing much haha. its out for 360 as well.
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lol well...uhhh...i dont hav
Shrurikam
Joined: Dec 01 2010 |
lol |
Re: Square-Enix
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
BacardiBreezer said
Pasto said
I agree with all of this but emphasis on the bolded part. Again I dont know what changed but ever since they merged their games have been fucking god awful. Endless remaking and porting and whoring out the old games while at the same time making terrible spinoffs. All their original ips have been trash too. I will say aside from kingdom hearts I did enjoy FFCC despite it being critically panned. The game only got shit on because it required the gameboys but if you take that part out the game was a really fun coop adventure. Graphics and music were great too. Square Enix has to be one of the biggest falls from grace in gaming up there with Sonic. Many of my favorite games were developed by them so it's a shame to see what a mess they are now. I attribute a large part of my not giving a shit about gaming anymore to the downfall of square. Also I really dont like that theyre making the next Deus Ex. What a travesty. |
Re: lol well...uhhh...i dont hav
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
Shrurikam said
You're not missing anything. PS2 and DS are more worthwhile than anything that's happened this generation. You could probably just keep working on great games you haven't played for those til next gen rolls around. |
Re: lol well...uhhh...i dont hav
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
hey, ps3 has great games. great RPG's in fact: dragon age I&II, fallout 3 and new vegas, and borderlans (RPS techinically), demons souls (even though its brutally hard), to name a few. outside of rpgs theres, uncharted series, god of war 3, assassins creed series, enslaved, the new mortal kombat. all kinds of great stuff goin on for the ps3, (blu-ray player, net broswer, netflix, minigames, classic PSX game downloads, free demos) as well as 360, though imo the only reason to buy an xbox would be halo and gears of war, and lost odyssey, but thats just me.
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Enix sucks
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
Enix sucks |
Re: Enix sucks
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
agreed. 3 or 4 good games out of 50-60 releases? sucks.
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Re: lol well...uhhh...i dont hav
karathrow
Joined: Oct 26 2010 |
wayfaerer said
It's a good thing you're not biased or anything. Also all of those games save 3 are multiplatform. Enjoying your PSN outage trololol? |
well I was mostly trolling in
StrangeJam
Da Manliness Joined: Aug 23 2009 |
well I was mostly trolling in case Rex,Ak,Laon,etc read, irc joke. :v and I haven't even read all the replies in this thread, but man last JRPG I played was Persona 4 and it was awesome. |
Re: lol well...uhhh...i dont hav
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
ill admit, when it comes to consoles, i am quite biased. and i am well aware that most of those games are multiplatform--in this gen's consoles. im arguing that ps3 is still relevant, none of those games i listed are available on last gen consoles. you said anyone without the new consoles isnt missing much, im saying they are missing some things, though agreeably, not a whole lot, just a whole lot more than some actually think. im not outting, aint my style, im just stating my feelings towards new gen consoles. and no, i am not enjoying the PSN outage. major fallback for the ps3, the damnable network is always being faggoty.
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Re: well I was mostly trolling in
wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams." Location: The Lifestream Joined: Apr 03 2011 |
give XII another try man. i didnt like it much at first either, but after awhile it really started to grow on me, and i really think its an awesome game. fallout 3? epic. best RPS in existence and while i havent played xenogears, xenosaga is most definately awesome stuff. just recently finished episode III; not as good as ep. I, but still a great conclusion.
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wayfaerer
"Embrace your dreams."
Location: The Lifestream
Joined: Apr 03 2011
alright, theres a pretty good likelihood that this thread already exists, but I'm too lazy to look for it; thus, I shall start my own.
Whats everyone's take on the "new" direction of Square?
For me, I don't like it much. sure XIII had its nice points (it was so pretty looking it hurt), but man.... I got really bored with runnin down a linear hallway with a random chest to either side, with something useless in it, time after time after time, and then have to fight some random ass boss that totally lacks lustre and relevance, much less substance. That being said, the combat idea was brilliant, though if it all happened in real time, I think it would be much cooler, both to see and control--ie, combine the ADB from XII with the new system of paradigms and queued attacks.
Also, have you guys seen this "Crystal Defenders" game on PSN? basically its a mash up of FF Tactics and Plants vs. Zombies; might SOUND cool, but it really, really isn't--its just juvenile and repetitive.
Anyone agree/disagree?