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Square Soft riddles, thread B!

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Riddles are verily fun! That's why we should have two threads. Some of the time, the new riddler from thread A will be in the process of creating theirs, and there will be NO RIDDLE at that time. So this is to fix that horrible horrible scenario.

Plus this means if thread A has a riddle from some game, and you haven't played that game enough to have a chance, then you can come here where maybe there will be a riddle from a different game.

The qualified games are still the same: pre-2003 Square Soft games that were released in America, and when posting a riddle say which game it's from. The rules are in the first post here:

http://www.gametabs.net/forum/topic/11773#new

A clarification that came up: if a correct guesser opens up the floor to anyone, the first person to post a riddle gets the floor, and then it's back to normal--whoever solves that riddle gets to post the next one (the floor doesn't go on being open).

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This riddle is from Chrono Trigger. Good luck!

A burst of light is strong,
But light’s reflection even stronger;
If you wish to understand,
Be patient! Wait longer!

I do not speak of rainbows
Or of pyric foe’s remains,
But something found by mending
The effects of heavy strains.

Prometheus?

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Prometheus?

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Auriplane!!

masamune?

soundsandstuff

Joined: Sep 27 2009

masamune?

double nope.

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

double nope.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

ok is it the moonstone? x3?

soundsandstuff

Joined: Sep 27 2009

ok is it the moonstone?

x3?

incorrect

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

incorrect

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

As long as I'm guessing [in]

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

As long as I'm guessing [in] the dark, howsabout Janus?

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Auriplane!!

incorrect

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

incorrect

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Dang. I'd interpreted the

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Dang. I'd interpreted the reflection as meaning opposite, hence shadow (Janus, Prometheus).

I could see the third and fourth lines applying to either of them, but it doesn't quite fit with that obvious "oh, i get it" sense. Same with the last two.

I think the real hint must be in lines 5-6, because they're fairly specific. Narrowing from the set of "everything", they aren't useful, so they must be useful because they're narrowing from a smaller subset. So, what set contains the items in lines 5-6?

Hmm.

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Auriplane!!

Franklen Badge

surreal

Eric: tank,godlike

Location: Arizona

Joined: Jan 04 2009

Franklin Badge

Marle's Pendant?

auriplane you're a genius,

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

auriplane you're a genius, this might be it, but i might just be an idiot.

Shadow <=> Shade

Sunshade?
Or possibly the prism specs? they are made of strains of metal?

Don't forget the Rainbow is

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Don't forget the Rainbow is also a sword.

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Auriplane!!

Shit...

GrimacingGrimoire

Joined: Nov 27 2010

I wish I had played this game, but I guess I have to wait til' someone gets one of these right...

Hurry! There's still time

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Hurry! There's still time for you to play Chrono Trigger before someone answers! ;-)

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Auriplane!!

hehehe...

GrimacingGrimoire

Joined: Nov 27 2010

that's funny you should say that, because I have it on an emulator, I just never try and play it!

I think...

GrimacingGrimoire

Joined: Nov 27 2010

I'll go out on a (very thin) limb here and say Marle's Pendant! eh, Surreal?

Nu

SalemJeanette

Save Your Tears.

Location: Popular Land.

Joined: Jul 03 2009

Nu

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23:33 Vic9mm said: its ture ida benn gone she took out like 3 kids before had what was that fat ass asian kid gonna do

Little J.

None of these.

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

None of these.

A bit of hintlery: Auri, you're right that 5 and 6 eliminate very specific things--they are intended to eliminate the set "Things that most people would think of, based on the first stanza." Namely, rainbow objects (including anything called "prism" since they're all made from the rainbow shell) and the moonstone (you get the moonstone from the remains of Son of Sun--a pyric foe).

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Is it the Chrono Trigger?

BluePhoenix

give me a dollar

Location: Earth, Universe A

Joined: Jan 21 2008

Is it the Chrono Trigger?

nope!

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

nope!

PS guys if you give some of your thought process for the guesses, then I can give a good hint or two, if you like.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

A burst of light is

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

A burst of light is strong,
But light’s reflection even stronger;

You are referring with something to do with light or something that bounces off of it. Possibly water or a mirror or something.

If you wish to understand,
Be patient! Wait longer!

You're probably hinting it happens or is revealed after the main stages of the game where you do all the extra side quests to make your team baller status

I do not speak of rainbows
Or of pyric foe’s remains,

You already explained and I actually understood the Son of Sun b4hand, but I forgot that prism was made from shells.

But something found by mending
The effects of heavy strains.

It is either an item forged or possibly a forging into a dual or triple tech? I believe lines 7 and 8 is the most important lines of this riddle.

I'm just gonna throw random words out now so it can be rejected... Luminaire? Wormhole? Neither? Yep.

Re: A burst of light is

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

jit said

You are referring with something to do with light or something that bounces off of it.

Yep

I actually understood the Son of Sun b4hand

Sweet! I'll add that the answer isn't anything that comes as a result of getting the moonstone.

It is either an item forged or possibly a forging into a dual or triple tech?

it's not

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Is it Magus?

cheif913

Joined: Mar 26 2011

Is it Magus?

nope, here's another

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

nope, here's another hint.

The answer does happen to come after getting the Epoch with wings, but that's not what lines 3 and 4 are referring to.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Should I give another hint,

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Should I give another hint, or retire the riddle?

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Re: Should I give another hint,

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

God I played this so long ago that I don't even remember the names of half the characters... Is this referring to saving the mother of that genius girl with glasses? The part where you gotta input LARA (i think it was lara...)? I remember I failed that side quest and robo gave me an item. So I suppose you get something else for saving her, and that's what you're referring to. It would totally fit with the last two lines.

Nope, it's not the Green

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Nope, it's not the Green Dream. Robo actually gives you that either way, I think.

Another hint: "wait longer" refers to a specific kind of choice you make in the game.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Boah, idk then... The only

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Boah, idk then... The only choice I remember is the one about fighting lavos. I'd really like to get into this but I've played CT way too long ago... Maybe something with that dude in the dimensional rift who claims to be the Warmaster? He was called Seppiko or sth like that. This is really my last stand now. :)

Nope, not Spekkio, though I

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Nope, not Spekkio, though I suppose the longer you wait to fight him, the stronger he gets! That's really close to my intended meaning for lines 1 and 2.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Okay, well clearly y'all are

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Okay, well clearly y'all are done with this one, and you put some good effort into it so here it is. The answer is the Moon Armor (/and the Nova Armor).

A burst of light is strong,
But light’s reflection even stronger;

(Burst of light--Nova. Light's reflection--Moon. The Moon Armor is stronger than the Nova Armor.)

If you wish to understand,
Be patient! Wait longer!

(You have to choose NOT to open the sealed chest containing the Nova Armor in 600 AD--and wait 400 years to pick up the Moon Armor from the same chest in 1000 AD.)

I do not speak of rainbows
Or of pyric foe’s remains,

(The riddle isn't about the rainbow shell or the moon/sunstone.)

But something found by mending
The effects of heavy strains.

(You can only get to the treasure chest by repairing the floors at the Northern Ruins.)

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

lol, no way did i remember

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

lol, no way did i remember that, i dont even think i ever did that... well u stumped us, give it another go!

Sacrelige! I'm curious about

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Sacrelige!

I'm curious about who knows which games and how well. It seems we have a few FF9ers, a good deal of FF7ers...

Personally I know FF7 and CT really-ass well. Then FF6, FF8, FF5, SoM, FF4, FF9, in that order roughly. I played through FF9 but really remember very little.

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Final Fantasy 7 Riddle (not mine, but a favorite of mine):

You can't trust me,
Under the sky I deceive you,
Fight me to find me,
Free me with unlikely allies,
In my home you'll find paradise,
Ending the search of 6

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Awww...

GrimacingGrimoire

Joined: Nov 27 2010

What happened to the other one?

I was getting something like: nothing, dog, and ?.

Nooo! the other riddle's gone

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

Nooo! the other riddle's gone >:(
What was the answer to it? I'm really curious.

PS. Yuffie?

I agree with Laoise's guess.

Geist

Joined: Jan 04 2011

I agree with Laoise's guess.

Loool, I don't even know if I

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Loool, I don't even know if I ever got that Nova armor... :P Although I remember repairing those floors or something...
And yup, this has to be Yuffie. You can't trust her cuz she's gonna steal your materia at one point and decieve you (and even when you're trying to recruit her you gotta be careful not to go to that savepoint or say something wrong). She's a random encounter so you gotta fight her first if you want her to join. And well, in her town there's the turtle paradise and the last of the six fliers. This is as easy as the previous was hard. :D

I deleted the other one

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I deleted the other one because I thought, "Nah, I should post an easy one to get things rolling." I'll re-post it the next time I answer someone's riddle.

As for the current one, Yuffie is correct! Plus, go back and read the first letter of each line of the riddle. :-)

Laoise, floor's yours.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Ohh! It spells yuffie down

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

Ohh! It spells yuffie down the side.
That's amazing, I didn't even notice it =P

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Find me in Seven
where time causes pain
Where a factor of eleven
hides something, with nothing to gain.

Find me in Six
A bright room I will be.
Trade a few of your kicks
For a little Exp'

Find me in Two
Almost anywhere you go
I'll give you something new
whether I survive, or no

Seven, six and two refer to

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Seven, six and two refer to FF sequels, right? Is the FF2 you mean the same as FF4 (the one with Cecil and co) or do you mean the real FF2? Btw musenji, I love how it spells Yuffie, didn't see it ealier. :D

Yep, Final Fantasy! I forgot

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

Yep, Final Fantasy! I forgot to mention that >.<
FF2 as in the one with Firion (:

Great, that's two FFs I

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Great, that's two FFs I haven't played then... :P But although I've never played FF2 I suppose it's a random encounter enemy that you either kill or it runs away if you're too slow, and it gives you an item either way, right?

Lmao you can still work it

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

Lmao you can still work it out from the FF7 one (:
And nope . . not exactly =P

Is it monsters hiding in

Ranulf

I will not join your gametabs.

Joined: Oct 15 2009

Is it monsters hiding in chests?

Re: Is it monsters hiding in

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

Correct!

Find me in Seven
where time causes pain

The clock room in the temple of the ancients. When the moving hand touches you, you fall down and start a battle.

Where a factor of eleven
hides something, with nothing to gain.

11 only has two factors, which are 1 and 11. Room 1 has a chest with a monster inside, but you don't get any items from killing it.

Find me in Six
A bright room I will be.

In the training house in Narshe, there's a room with smart people. I guess you could also say there's a save point in the room which is bright.

Trade a few of your kicks
for a little Exp'

The monster is so weak. Only a few hits will kill it.

Find me in Two
Almost anywhere you go

Monsters in chests are so common in ff2. Theres almost one in every dungeon

I'll give you something new
whether I survive, or no

In FF2 you recieve the items before you battle it (;

Your turn, Ranulf (:

I have 3 ideas, all 3 refer

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

I have 3 ideas, all 3 refer to an enemy type from ff7. Is it Toxic Frog, 8 eyes or Jemnezmy by any chance? The factor of 11 refers to that "clock room" in the temple of ancients and something with nothing to gain is Princes guard which can be found there. And the only enemies you can fight there are these 3 I think. Although, time causes pain could mean the thing when you get knocked down by that third clock hand and fall into the room where you fight that dragon. So I'd say it's that dragon after all. I can imagine him appearing in ff2 and 6 as well. This is as far as I can go with knowing only one FF that's mentioned here. I'd appreciate it if you take all my 4 guesses into consideration cuz I can't filter them any further without actually playing FF2 and 6.

GOD DAMN!!! What else can I

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

GOD DAMN!!! What else can I say? XD

LMAO you were soo close like

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

LMAO you were soo close like =P
Good guess anyway, considering you didn't play the others (:

Sorry kanshiketsu :P Anyways,

Ranulf

I will not join your gametabs.

Joined: Oct 15 2009

Sorry kanshiketsu :P
Anyways, I thought of this riddle before I found out that you have to name the game along with it, so I'd rather not say the name of the game because it would make it too easy. But, then again, it still might be too easy.

I used to think that I was an orphan,
but now I know that that's not true.
For you see, unlike the green I'm used to,
I realize now that my parents live up in the big blue.

Re: Sorry kanshiketsu :P Anyways,

laoise

Laoise

Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Joined: Mar 31 2008

This is a long shot, but is it Terra from FF6?

I think she never realised she had parents, until she went up to that esper world.
And . . Her hair is green? =P

Re: Sorry kanshiketsu :P Anyways,

Ranulf

I will not join your gametabs.

Joined: Oct 15 2009

No, it's not from a FF game. Just ask if you want a hint.

MALLOW!!!!!

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

MALLOW!!!!! d'awwwww (he's so cute)

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.