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Square Soft riddles!

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Riddles are really friggin fun. Verily!

The rules:

1. One riddle at a time. Whoever correctly guesses the riddle (and has the answer confirmed by the riddler) gets to post the next one. They have 48 hours to do so, then the floor is open. (They can also decline to post, and leave the floor open, but c'mon guys, give it a shot.)

2. The riddler gets to decide whether to give hints, and whether to answer questions. (i.e. It's not 20 questions folks.)

Something that has worked very well is for guessers to post the reasoning behind their guesses--which gives the riddler a chance to steer them along, in an organic fashion. And it keeps people from just randomly guessing.

3. Riddles are to be made based on Square Soft games (pre-2003) that were released in America. (The reason for this is to limit the field and keep it relatively accessible to all.)

4. If you are posting a riddle, pick one game to riddle about, and state it in your initial post.

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So, the first riddle. It's from Final Fantasy VII:

I reside in darkness where evil’s enlightened
Mostly contorted, but sometimes I’m heightened

If you look around, you can tell I’ve been preying
Though when I appear, the guitarist keeps playing

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natenmn

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I guess Vincent!


I reside in darkness where evil’s enlightened

He lives in a coffin in the area where Sephiroth reads books and shit and goes crazy... or enlightened from Sephiroth's own perspective.

Mostly contorted, but sometimes I’m heightened

His limit breaks contort him into monsters, but his battle skills are heightened (to an extent XD)

If you look around, you can tell I’ve been preying

Not sure about this, but "looking around" may refer to looking at pictures of the character. One in particular where he is on the rooftops sorta looks like he is preying on somone? I dunno XD

Though when I appear, the guitarist keeps playing

This refers to his theme?

The logic is spot on for

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

The logic is spot on for lines 1 and 4. The guess is incorrect.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

I guess...

Geist

Joined: Jan 04 2011

Lost Number.

I'm thinkin Jenova. I don't

Frogma

Joined: Jun 25 2008

I'm thinkin Jenova.

I don't really know where she resides but enlightened could refer to the ancients or Hojo.

Contorted, yeah she's pretty messed up. Heightened, as in those times you fight her she's pretty massive.

Looking around the game you find all the tattooed ex-soldiers which could pertain to the 3rd line.

Jenova's theme is guitaraliciously awesome.

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"Frogma is not a communist! He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star!"

Tricky! Vincent was my first

Kabukibear

Happy Strumming!

Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

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EDIT:

I changed my mind, I'm going to go with the big man himself, Sephiroth. I'm not positive how to fit the last line in which is why I originally went with Hojo, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

Hmmmmm...

Timmyb101

Joined: Oct 10 2010

Not rly sure, but Arith?

wouldn't Vincent Valentine

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

wouldn't Vincent Valentine have the theme with the guitar that keeps playing?

Nevermind I just read it was incorrect, stupid ole me

Ok my guess is going to be

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

Ok my guess is going to be Seto, Nanaki's father?

None of those are

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

None of those are correct.

When I said Nate's logic was spot on for lines 1 and 4, I meant it! Pick up on his trail and you'll get the answer in no time.

Since Jit was also correct about line 4, I'll explicitly say, yes, line 4 refers to Vincent's theme.

Frogma, line 3 is a bit more literal than you're thinking with regard to evidence of "preying".

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Jit, just because Nate's

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Jit, just because Nate's guess about the final answer to the riddle was incorrect, doesn't mean he wasn't right about certain individual lines! Vincent isn't the answer--but line 4 does refer to Vincent's musical theme. That's a piece of the puzzle--not the whole puzzle.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Well then the two logical

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

Well then the two logical choices would be either Lucrecia or Dr. Hojo but some the riddle doesnt make sense for each

Residing in darkness would either be Hojo's Lab or Lucrecia's cave.

"Mostly contorted, but sometimes I’m heightened"
Would make more sense for Hojo, he is cynical and sometimes is heightened through the injection of Jenova.

"If you look around, you can tell I’ve been preying"
Again would make more sense for Hojo, his lab would be full of wild "prey" and monsters that he's been capturing or "preying" on

Though when I appear, the guitarist keeps playing
Doesn't really make sense for Hojo, but plays when Lucrecia makes her appearance in the game.

I don't like just throwing out guess after guess so I'm not gonna say either until I fully figure it out. Hell, I could still be completely wrong.

It's not Lucrecia or Hojo.

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

It's not Lucrecia or Hojo.

"Preying" is in a very literal sense, not the psychological sense.

"Contorted" and "heightened" also refer to the physical, not the psychological.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

its clearly the meteor

Jacob31593

Location: Tampa, FL

Joined: Jan 04 2009

its clearly the meteor

Maybe specifically one of

Kabukibear

Happy Strumming!

Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida

Joined: Mar 22 2007

Maybe specifically one of Vincent's limit breaks?

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natenmn

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Maybe it is one of the enemies in the basement? I'm specifically thinking of the bats or the zombie thing. To keep this at just one guess per post, I'll go with...

I guess Zombie thing in the basement!
I actually don't think this is it due to the semi-conflict with the fourth line, but I'll go with it for fun XD.


I reside in darkness where evil’s enlightened

He lives in the basement area where Sephiroth reads books and shit and goes crazy... or enlightened from Sephiroth's own perspective.

Mostly contorted, but sometimes I’m heightened

He is usually contorted and bent over backwards, yet he often stands up tall (heightened) and straight.

If you look around, you can tell I’ve been preying

Looking around the basement there are plenty of bones and crap from what zombie thing has been preying on.

Though when I appear, the guitarist keeps playing

While when you battle him, the music switches to the battle theme, he appears in one of the same screens in which you talk to Vincent and hear The Nightmare's Beginning.


Also, is the answer actually living/sentient? I have a few ideas about non-living items, which I actually would have gone to before the zombie, but I feel like they are stupid XD.

Vincent. He's awesome :)

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Vincent. He's awesome :)

Yep, it's Ying/Yang, in the

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Yep, it's Ying/Yang, in the basement.

-Sephiroth does become enlightened about his own past...THEN he goes crazy.
-Contorted/heightened does refer to his posture.
-Yep, third line's about the bones laying around.
-And...I was sure there's some point at which you can fight him with Vincent's theme still playing. That's one of the things that I thought was so eerie about the basement. Maybe it's only the PC version? I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy.

Anyway, your turn Nate.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Re: Yep, it's Ying/Yang, in the

natenmn

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musenji said

And...I was sure there's some point at which you can fight him with Vincent's theme still playing. That's one of the things that I thought was so eerie about the basement. Maybe it's only the PC version? I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy.

You could be right.. it has been a long time since I have payed and I was more making an assumption that it went to the battle theme when you fight them lol.


musenji said

Anyway, your turn Nate.

I think I'll pass the torch back to you since you said you have a whole bunch already in irc... I'll be making up something good in the meantime in case I ever guess correctly again XD.

I do have a bunch, but I feel

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I do have a bunch, but I feel like going twice in a row would be hoggy of me, and this thread is for everyone, so I'm leaving the floor totally open! Whoever posts first, have at it!

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

There is 1 and only 1 area

Timmyb101

Joined: Oct 10 2010

There is 1 and only 1 area where you can fight the enemy 'Tonberry', where is it?

Re: There is 1 and only 1 area

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Is that the little thingy that carries a knife and walks real slowly? Cause if so, you can find that in the battle arena in the Gold Saucer and on the path to where you fight Sephy right after you get out of the Highwind :)

Re: There is 1 and only 1 area

natenmn

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Timmyb101 said

There is 1 and only 1 area where you can fight the enemy 'Tonberry', where is it?

Despite there being multiple games where you can do this, I'm guessing you meant FFVII? If so, Northern Cave? Or did you want specific areas in the Northern Cave?

Edit: LINK STRIIIIIIIIFE!!!! XD

Double edit: Actually, I think that link strife is correct with the golden saucer... the Tonberry is only there. In the northern cave is Master Tonberry.

I know my FF7. XD Looks like

Joined: Dec 31 1969

I know my FF7. XD Looks like you do too young grasshopper... X|

Re: I know my FF7. XD Looks like

natenmn

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Link Strife07 said

I know my FF7. XD Looks like you do too young grasshopper... X|

Lol I used to XD... not so much anymore, but I've been thinking of playing through again. And I'm actually pretty confident your answer is correct, as while I was looking for a spirit bug fix the other day, I saw some other bug fixes. One was that the Tonberry can be added back to the Whirlwind maze so that it is not just in the battle arena.

I'm hoping that the spirit bug fix won't make it too easy, though. I am thinking it would make for a slightly different experience as armor that wasn't viable before will be so with the fix.

Btw, your semi-new avatar is awesome. XD

HOLY ******* COW!!!

Timmyb101

Joined: Oct 10 2010

Link Strife got it! Nice one, your turn.

Re: I know my FF7. XD Looks like

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Ya, you should play through again. And the spirit bug fix sounds like a good idea! It seems like it will make it easier but not too easy. Try it and tell us what happens, oh and thanks :) I saw this pic on the internet and was like ...cool!

Final Fantasy VI Thump,

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Final Fantasy VI

Thump, thump, thump, thump!
No need to worry
If my back were broken
I'd recover in no time

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Auriplane!!

Re: Final Fantasy VI Thump,

natenmn

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/ego time

I guess an encounter with me while playing FFVI!

Thump, thump, thump, thump!

You love me.

No need to worry

Unlike most guys, my charm puts you at ease.

If my back were broken

I like it rough.

I'd recover in no time

I'm just like crack, and you're addicted, Auri!

Thump, thump, thump,

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Thump, thump, thump, thump!
The sound of my head hitting my desk

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Auriplane!!

D:

natenmn

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D:

Re: Thump, thump, thump,

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Nice auri XD

Should I give a hint?

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Should I give a hint?

EDIT: Musenji has asked me to re-post the riddle on the second page, and this is my top-most post. Future denizens of the Riddle Thread can do likewise, when they have a riddle going.

Final Fantasy VI

Thump, thump, thump, thump!
No need to worry
If my back were broken
I'd recover in no time

Pagination, be slain!

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Auriplane!!

Nah, but you can wait your

jit

Joined: Mar 04 2009

Nah, but you can wait your turn because it's Link Strife's turn :)

loljk, im guessing this is a monster or am I just completely wrong and it's some weird metaphors for something random object like Figaro Castle for example

hope it doesn't have to do with the end because i never beaten the game :(

thoughts

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Technically it's LS's turn but as LS hasn't said "hey it's my turn!" I assume it's cool?

One thought is that "thump thump thump thump" is an event, which would make one worry, but nothing's gone wrong, and even if it did go wrong the thing would end up fine. It kinda makes me think it's a character because characters in games tend to not get permanently injured--for example how Link can fall 200 feet in Ocarina of Time and only lose one heart.

The thumping also makes me think of Suplex, Mog's dancing, or maybe an enemy lore.

(None of these are guesses, mind you--just thinking out loud. :D)

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Well, no one else gave an

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Well, no one else gave an actual riddle since Musenji said it was open to whoever said one first, so I was assuming it was still okay :-)

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Auriplane!!

It's no metaphor; it also

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

It's no metaphor; it also isn't something that happens in battle.

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Auriplane!!

I know, it's a phoenix

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

I know, it's a phoenix down... XD

Ok, seriously now. I never

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Ok, seriously now. I never played FF 6, but isn't this referring to those robots they're riding in the very beginning of the game? They go like "thump, thump" while marching trough the snow fields, and no matter what you break you can probably repair it.

Nope! That's not it.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Nope! That's not it.

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Auriplane!!

Awww... Well, no idea then...

kanshiketsu89

Anime Clef

Joined: Aug 13 2010

Awww... Well, no idea then... :P Btw, I made up a good one for FF 10, it even rhymes, but I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to post it now, since yours still hasn't been nailed.

Should I give another hint?

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Should I give another hint?

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Auriplane!!

I wish I had played FFIV, but

Geist

Joined: Jan 04 2011

I wish I had played FFIV, but I was a mere toddler at the time.

It's about 6, not 4

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

It's about 6, not 4

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Auriplane!!

Awww...

Geist

Joined: Jan 04 2011

I guess I still need to learn to count...

Re: thoughts

Joined: Dec 31 1969

Oh sorry, I am going to do the next riddle. There is already a forum post :) Just making it official XD

I'm pretty sure these threads

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I'm pretty sure these threads can coexist :-)

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Auriplane!!

I'll take another hint! I'm

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I'll take another hint! I'm wracking my brain!

Kanshiketsu89, gotta wait till the floor holder either retracts the riddle, or confirms someone's guess. Or you can solve the riddle on the other thread. :D

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Yeah, I am stumped too D: I

natenmn

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Yeah, I am stumped too D:

I haven't played ff6 in like 9 years :(

It takes place within a cave.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

It takes place within a cave.

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Auriplane!!

I'm thinking it refers to

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I'm thinking it refers to Mog, perhaps whacking Umaro? When you meet up with him in WoR, Mog says something about "you guys didn't think I'd die that easy, did you?"

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.