The Rising Fighting Spirit - Naruto

Ranulf

I will not join your gametabs.

Joined: Oct 15 2009

You mean switch it up with octaves?

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Actually, I'm mixing you up with Daugreano. He's the one who avoids the high E string regularly.

Although you do that in this particular tab.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Yeah, that's not what "octaves" means. If you moved a note from 5 on the first string to 2 on the third string, that'd be an octave lower. Or if you moved a note from 5 on the first string up to 17 on the first string, that'd be an octave higher. That's what "using octaves" would mean.

And that's not really a good idea, no--playing a run from 17 to 5 on one string isn't "giving yourself opportunities to slide", it's giving yourself opportunities to play sloppily. There's a big difference between sliding intentionally and just putting a bunch of notes down without regard to where they are on the neck. You should really never be writing something like --17-15-13-12-10-8-5--.

But of course you *can*, as it's your tab, and not mine. After another year of playing guitar you might seriously question what you were thinking, though :-)

hslesperance

Location: Walpole, MA

Joined: Aug 10 2008

5 to 0 just means you are playing the same note on a different string, not a different register. e12 would be an octave higher than open e. And d2 would be an octave lower.

And about the slides; you are making tabs for other people to view and play off of. They won't know that you intended to use slides unless you indicated them. But you shouldn't put slides in a transcription that don't actually occur in the song. You could if it were an arrangement, though.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

I hesitate to give a rule, especially as I'm not the best guitarist ever, and also since I can stretch pretty far.

But I'd say this isn't about stretching. The idea is just: be aware of where your hand is at all times, and when the notes in the tab cause you to *move* your hand, then be aware of when you're doing it and why.

When I see --17-15-13-12-10-8-5--, I think "fingers 4 3 2 1, shift positions, then fingers 4 2 1". To me, that's pretty awkward.

So the question is, if you want to have slides, where are you going to put them? If you have 7 descending notes on one string, there's no natural places to put a slide. But you want to have slides, so ask yourself where they *sound* good. You don't slide to change position, you slide because it sounds good.

You're writing a tab, so plan it out. You can plan it out based on the way you play naturally, but if you're not playing it well naturally, then you need to rethink it and come up with a way that flows better. As an example, I might play it like this:

e |-s12-10-8-------------
B |-----------12-10-8s5--
G |----------------------
D |----------------------
A |----------------------
E |----------------------

I slide up to the 12 at the beginning, and slide down to the 5. I also don't have to do any stretches whatsoever, since 5 frets is easily within the range of one position. (You can reach much higher and lower notes by stretching out, and by keeping your thumb in one place while the rest of your hand moves. But, in this case, I didn't have any reason to do either of those.) Three-note-per-string patterns are easy for guitarists, and in this case the accents are on the 12s there, so it just makes sense to play it this way.

Or maybe this gives a better emphasis to the notes:

e |-s12-10p8-------------
B |-----------12-10s8-5--
G |----------------------
D |----------------------
A |----------------------
E |----------------------

But even if you leave out all the articulation marks, just having it written as 12 10 8, 12 10 8 5 makes it pretty playable. People will come up with their own articulation, as there are multiple "natural" ways to play it across two strings. If you put it all on one string, people will just be fumbling their way down the neck, since there IS no natural way to play it on one string.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

You know, like in

http://www.gametabs.net/final-fantasy-v/ahead-on-our-way-0

You move up some frets instead of using the first string. It might have only been in a couple songs. If you haven't noticed, I've been too lazy to do submissions for a while :-( So I haven't seen a lot of tabs.

This one avoids the first string too:

http://www.gametabs.net/metal-gear-solid/main-theme

And this one in the middle part:

http://www.gametabs.net/final-fantasy-ix/over-hill

Donno if it's something you do very often, it's just something I noticed a while ago :-)

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Well, I looked at a lot of your tabs just now, and I noticed that it's only in a few of them. So it's not really a fair characterization. Sorry!

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Hee

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Well, I was just trying to guess where you'd put a slide. I didn't mean "do it like this", I was just trying to give an example :-)

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

You weren't rude.

That's pretty good, but I'd move that first 10 to a 5, like this:

e|--------------------------------5----/8---8--10-8-7--------------7-|
B|--5---5--7-8-7-------5---5--7-8----------------------10-8-7-8-10---|
G|----------------7--------------------------------------------------|
D|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
A|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
E|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

|--------------------------------5----/8---8--10-12-10-------------10--7-|
|--5---5--7-8-7-------5---5--7-8-------------------------13-12-10--------|
|----------------7-------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Seems more natural, though it's playable with a 10 too.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Whatever, I'm pretty bad at stuff like tone and interpersonal interaction, so if so, I didn't even notice :-)

I'm trying to be a little nicer myself, and hopefully I didn't come off as rude. I try to keep my criticism constructive, though. Heheh. Just trying to help!

hslesperance

Location: Walpole, MA

Joined: Aug 10 2008

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