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Fingerstyle Challenge of the Week #3 (Review'd and watched and done and finished and so on..!)

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Ok, way to go :) The contest this week will contain:

Harmonics, wooh!!

So I decided to pick one of my favourite tabs of all times, or rather the harmonics part only, named
Touhou - Hisouten (I extracted the part already because it would be annoying to scroll all over the stuff everytime)

A example how to play it can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ci1j51FPqc (2:39-3:01)
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I'll judge by the same rules that were applied last week:

-Accuracy
-Consistency
-Fluidity
-Musicality
-If you can't handle the original tempo, take it slow. A slightly slower but accurate, consistent, fluid and musical entry is better than a fast but sloppy one!
Please keep that in mind, I do not insist in keeping the original speed. However the faster you can play it the better :)

Have fun and good luck!

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Entries and reviews:

Please keep in mind that englisch isn't my native language, so if something sounds off or shallow I beg your pardon :D

TrangOuls entry:

Veeeery nice! The speed change didn't sound well when hearing it first, but after second and third time I really like it! Gives the whole thing more of... dynamic touch I guess. Overall, very constant playing with taking good use of the accents, harmonics came out loud an clear, no complains here :P
And I only noticed one mistake (2nd e19), but even that only came out when hearing it more then once.

Clanvers entry:

I can't say anything against the guitar-playing itself, harmonics and all came out nicely and you didn't stumble on the pace... but... man.. You just jumped offbeat so many times that it started to sound really awkward :/ Sadly thats a grave mistake in terms of musicality, everything else sounded so nice! With not even a full day (maybe a hour would've been enough) to practice the beat you could've really nailed it, but I look forward to your future entries :P

Musenjis entry:

Of all the version you've posted (although only was entry was allowed xD) I liked this one the most! The tempo is constant, the playing flawless (even with the accents) the harmonics sound perfect etc. etc.
I don't really know what I can say, there are no real flaws to point out, how much time did you spend on this ?

And therefore the winner this week is: Musenji!!, congratulations!
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nate lied! (Only because Trang is getting old and feeble)

I love this arrangement!

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

I love this arrangement! Great choice man.

can you keep a copy of the

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

can you keep a copy of the section in the op for simplicity's sake? (as in a text format, not zip)

Seeeeeeexxy. Sexy. Sex.

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Seeeeeeexxy. Sexy. Sex.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Re: can you keep a copy of the

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

karathrow said

can you keep a copy of the section in the op for simplicity's sake? (as in a text format, not zip)

Download the original file from the YouTube video. The zip contains a pdf.

well, i play a lot of touhou,

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

well, i play a lot of touhou, nuff said :3

Re: well, i play a lot of touhou,

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Clanver said

well, i play a lot of touhou, nuff said :3

Yeah me too, although I never managed to clear a game at normal without continues :<

so. i've yet to figure out.

zen03y

CATFOOD

Location: Lynn, MA

Joined: Jun 20 2009

so. i've yet to figure out. what are lightly black notes?

Re: so. i've yet to figure out.

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

The greyed out ones? It just indicates a level of dynamic contrast, aka play them much lighter than you would the black ones.

Where are the grey ones? My

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Where are the grey ones? My eyesight is bad, but I think I should be able to see them and I don't @_@

EDIT: Ohh, I downloaded the ZIP from Youtube. Oops. I got the one from your post now @_@

EDITEDIT: I ... still don't see them :-O

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Auriplane!!

o_O

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

o_O

Do you mean the bass and

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Do you mean the bass and melody voices ? you can deactivate the grey notes with ctrl + G then :)

I expected a whole load of complains, glad to see you all approve of this lol :D

Ennea is correct about the

natenmn

I haven't had a chance to trim my hedges recently. Thanks for visiting anyway...

Location: United States

Joined: Jul 17 2009

Ennea is correct about the greyed out notes in the Guitar Pro file. They represent a different voice than what you currently have selected.

Accented notes are usually marked by a ">" or a "^". The actual volume of notes are often identified as mezzo forte, forte, fortissimo, etc.


EDIT:

Here is a gif that I quickly made illustrating how to use the different voices options:
voices.gif

I prefer not to use voices in Guitar Pro for various reasons. A big factor is that there are only two voices available to use.

Oh, I was checking the PDF.

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

Oh, I was checking the PDF. @_@

Nate, what would 3 voices look like on one staff? I think the voice separation is for the purpose of making sheet music, so...

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Auriplane!!

Re: Oh, I was checking the PDF.

natenmn

I haven't had a chance to trim my hedges recently. Thanks for visiting anyway...

Location: United States

Joined: Jul 17 2009

auriplane said

Oh, I was checking the PDF. @_@

Nate, what would 3 voices look like on one staff? I think the voice separation is for the purpose of making sheet music, so...

This may not be the best example, but here is one using an intermediate voice:

I don't think it is the most common thing, but that reason in combination with a few others make it my preference not to use them in Guitar Pro.

For example, I don't like the way it works with strums. I also don't like that it doesn't export the second voice value into an ascii file (or at least not by default, and I don't know if there is an option to show it). As far as I know, there is no way to make the cursor hit both voices when playing back a gp5 file, which a lot of people seem to like when they play along with a tab.

You're right that the voice separation is for the purpose of sheet music. For making tabs, on the other hand, I just personally feel it is poorly implemented in Guitar Pro and can sometimes even detract from a tab.

Re: can you keep a copy of the

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Bhael said

karathrow said

can you keep a copy of the section in the op for simplicity's sake? (as in a text format, not zip)

Download the original file from the YouTube video. The zip contains a pdf.

He's looking for the specific measures, I think. A fair request imo. Unless we're not allowed to post them here.

[edit] Oh snap, never mind. I hadn't looked at the posted pdf yet.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

For reference: The tempo is

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

For reference:

The tempo is just a hair under 104.

Since harmonics ring out more easily on steel string guitars, and electric classicals if they are plugged into an amp, is there a type-of-guitar limitation on this contest?

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Re: For reference:The tempo is

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Nope. Since this contest is all about the capability to play something as smooth as possible I see no reason for a guitar limitation.

Use whatever you feel like !

actually its easier to do

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

actually its easier to do harmonics on my normal classical than my electric one~

Ah, I assumed that under

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Ah, I assumed that under "accuracy" and "musicality" would be "being able to hear all the notes ring out clearly" as well as "not having any wrong notes".

On a side note, I now have this passage playing in my head on repeat over and over, just without the first measure. daaaah. hahaha

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

There are a few really hard

GMavak

Joined: Nov 19 2011

There are a few really hard parts that I just can not reach or the technique is just not common.
But fun competition.

I wish everyone Goodluck

Re: There are a few really hard

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

You need to play the harmonics with your right hand, like when doing artificial harmonics :O Putting your index right above the 12th and 19th fret bar and pluck the string with your middle oder ring finger!

Does noone else have any difficulties ? :D

I'm fine, I'm really REALLY

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I'm fine, I'm really REALLY grateful that this one is easy on the left hand. I think it was a great choice, just for the fact that this emphasizes right hand difficulty. And it sounds so deliciously urban-ambient.

We ARE using the capo right? cause he had a capo on 3. I assume you mean "fret 19" in relation to the capo. It being past the classical fretboard (hovering over the soundhole) does make it slightly more difficult, but I think I've got it.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Yeah, I kept your injury in

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Yeah, I kept your injury in mind by chosing the next challenge xD

Regarding the capo - I just realized I didn't make that clear :O Yes, of course capo on 3rd fred is the rule. Everyone that participates here should have at least this much of equipment so I don't think there's a problem with that.

RIGHT ????
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Oh and I wanted to see if Trang is skilled with his right hand too :> Hope he'll participate!

Can't afford no capo! Po',

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Can't afford no capo! Po', k? :p

P.S. I do not have one Fred let alone three WHAT DO I DO

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

My brother is a Fred. Now we

auriplane

Joined: Sep 06 2008

My brother is a Fred. Now we just have to find two more.

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Auriplane!!

Oh whew! There we go. I was

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

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Oh whew! There we go. I was really scared for a bit there.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Wow I have no clue what you

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Wow I have no clue what you two are talking about :d

Hey Ennea, what is the due

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Hey Ennea, what is the due date?

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Sunday, as always :P But it

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

Sunday, as always :P It can be expended if it's really needed - but I would rather not :/

I think more and more, we may

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I think more and more, we may see people just submitting on the last day, so don't worry!

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Herp a derp

TrangOul

Insomaniac

Location: Germany

Joined: Feb 24 2008

Herp a derp

"Oh and I wanted to see if

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

"Oh and I wanted to see if Trang is skilled with his right hand too :>"

Damnit Ennea, you don't lay the smack down in front of Trang. Trang wears steel-spiked Reisinger cleats and will turn your smack into fertilizer.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Wow I have literally no idea

TrangOul

Insomaniac

Location: Germany

Joined: Feb 24 2008

Wow I have literally no idea what musenji's post is about. o.o

I was making a joke. What it

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

I was making a joke. What it means is, when Ennea said

"Oh and I wanted to see if Trang is skilled with his right hand too :>"

It seemed like he was jokingly trying to goad you into making sure you'd enter. I was thinking, "Of COURSE he is skilled with his right hand too. There's no way he wouldn't be."

And then you proved that you are, and so I made a joke about it. In America, "laying the smack down" can be interpreted to mean "putting a challenge in front of someone". I turned this into a physical image, assuming the "smack" was an object that could be literally laid down in front of someone.

The last sentence, in essence, means, "he will take your challenge and succeed at beating it." However, I decided to continue the physical metaphor, making it about stomping on the challenge. To strengthen the metaphor, I said that you stomp on the challenge with soccer ("futbol") cleats. But not just any soccer cleats. Soccer cleats with steel spikes on bottom, instead of rubber. And I decided to throw the name of a German soccer player in there for good measure.

And that, folks, is why explaining a joke ruins the joke.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

To put it another way, Trang,

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

To put it another way, Trang, I was complimenting you on your performance. :-)

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Now I get it, thanks for

TrangOul

Insomaniac

Location: Germany

Joined: Feb 24 2008

Now I get it, thanks for clearing that up. ^_^
And you're right, if Ennea had not said that thing about my right hand I might not have entered. :p

Re: Now I get it, thanks for

Ennea

humhum..

Location: Germany

Joined: Apr 09 2010

TrangOul said

Now I get it, thanks for clearing that up. ^_^
And you're right, if Ennea had not said that thing about my right hand I might not have entered. :p

HA!!

I laughed at the explanation :D Otherwise I would just have scratched my head, never knowing what you were talking about °_°

But, man, talking about mind control!

srsly,same here^^ . .my

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

srsly,same here^^ . .
my entry tommorow~ actually ive already recorded 2 takes, one with electrical and one with normal classical~
but in both cases i played one or two bass notes too much :x.

Actually I had just assumed

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Actually I had just assumed Trang was going to enter either way. I just saw an opportunity to throw a little humor in.

Dude, clanver! I recorded both electric and classical too!

But I wasn't really using the sheet music, and so I didn't include the accents (they were pretty subtle in the YouTube performance, and I didn't realize they were "supposed" to be there). I sort of did my own dynamic thing. I wonder if I'd be counted down for that--now I'm trying to incorporate the accents.

P.S. Honestly, with the accents, this piece is amazing for exercising right hand coordination and rhythm.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

accents .. ? how, why, where

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

accents .. ? how, why, where D;, arrrrh

That's right.

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

That's right. Accents. Hit me like a brick in the face, too. :D

Obviously not an entry, but a little fun on the way:

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

If only people from Germany

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

If only people from Germany were allow to enter the fingerstyle challenge, not much would change at this point.

I'm not really a big touhou person so I've sort of sat this one out, perhaps next week will gather my interest :P

Trying to do a thousand

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

Trying to do a thousand things at once (including Baldur's Gate) has lead to lack of practice this week. I'm not sure if I'll be submitting a recording for this :S.

Karathrow, I didn't even know

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Karathrow, I didn't even know what touhou was until this week!

...I...still don't, totally. I think Auriplane told me that it's...a series of games? Something like that. I forget.

I know this is all due to an appalling lack of Google-Fu on my part, but the point is, you don't have to care about the source to like (and play) the music. :-)

Or did you mean you're not really into the music?

At any rate, not trying to be pushy or anything. Enjoy your physics! I just think it's too bad cause this week's piece doesn't, you know, physically HURT to practice. :D

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

its a japanese indie game

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

its a japanese indie game series with lots of followers and the music remixes, covers etc. from touhou are like all over the place

Ah! I have some recordings,

musenji

Joined: Feb 02 2010

Ah!

I have some recordings, but when I wake up today I'ma see if I can get a couple more in to choose from before I submit.

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And then I realized that the chord progression from Chrono Cross's Another World is the same progression as the chorus from Peace of Mind by Boston, and life was never quite the same.

Yeah I tend to have more

karathrow

Joined: Oct 26 2010

Yeah I tend to have more motivation to practice songs I am at least somewhat familiar with, I know I don't have to know the music or anything.

nah i dont care~ for me its

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

nah i dont care~ for me its training here, you can even let me play hip hop songs on classical if thats what you wish~

i hope to improve^^, and i kinda get a lot of practice on weekends right now~

haha camera battery at its

Clanver

Pixelfingers cant play

Location: Germany, Kiel

Joined: Jan 03 2009

haha camera battery at its end, so here the last rcording . .

its only the 3rd challenge and im starting to not make my bed and not shaving before recording and i have bed hair xD . .sundays~

yes, i wont even bother to count the mistakes :3

Haha Clanver, nice dovecrow

Bhael

Location: Newcastle, UK

Joined: Feb 18 2010

Haha Clanver, nice dovecrow dedication.